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    (Original post by zippity.doodah)
    "socialism" is not totally synonymous with collectivism; collectivism can be without a state, whereas socialism is where some/all property is owned by the state - that's why when people, when they refer to socialism today, aren't advocating anarchism when they advocate for things like democratic socialism, social democracy, etc.
    Socialism is where the means of production are controlled by the workers. Leninists believe that such worker control can be (note can be, not is) embodied through a state. While I vehemently disagree with this view, there is a great deal more sophistication to it than 'socialism = state ownership'.

    Are you agreeing with the Leninist view that worker control can be embodied through a state? If not, then you must reject the definition of socialism as state control.
 
 
 
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