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Just solving 2 simultaneous differential equations - am i being thick!?

Ok, am I just being stupid?

Aim is to find x(t). alpha, g, M and m are all constants.

I've tried just solving it as a standard second order ODE but can't really get much further than the complementary function.
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Reply 1
I'm not convinced of some of your manipulation; it seems you've written sinαcosα=sinα2\sin \alpha \cos \alpha = \sin \frac{\alpha}{2}.

But aside from that, find the complementary function, the extra term on the RHS is just a constant, so look for a PI of the form x = K for some constant K.
Reply 2
Sorry, i meant sin(2alpha)/2. Will have a go now..
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Reply 3
Original post by 3thr3e
Sorry, i meant sin(2alpha)/2. Will have a go now..


Yes. After the correction integrate the equation twice with respect to x.
Reply 4
Original post by DFranklin
I'm not convinced of some of your manipulation; it seems you've written sinαcosα=sinα2\sin \alpha \cos \alpha = \sin \frac{\alpha}{2}.

But aside from that, find the complementary function, the extra term on the RHS is just a constant, so look for a PI of the form x = K for some constant K.


IGNORE. I'm BEING THICK as suspected!
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Reply 5
Original post by imzir
Yes. After the correction integrate the equation twice with respect to x.


You can't just do that though can you. x is a function of t..
Reply 6
Original post by 3thr3e
You can't just do that though can you. x is a function of t..


sorry i meant integrate x with respect to t. sorry I am an alevel student.
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Reply 7
Original post by imzir
sorry i meant integrate x with respect to t.


that's like saying what's the integral of y with respect to x and not knowing what the function y is!
Reply 8
Original post by 3thr3e
that's like saying what's the integral of y with respect to x and not knowing what the function y is!


ive done second order differential equations before but this looks wierd for some reason.

Whats your particular integral?
Reply 9
Original post by DFranklin
I'm not convinced of some of your manipulation; it seems you've written sinαcosα=sinα2\sin \alpha \cos \alpha = \sin \frac{\alpha}{2}.

But aside from that, find the complementary function, the extra term on the RHS is just a constant, so look for a PI of the form x = K for some constant K.


Ok I think i've done it. Please could you check it?
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Reply 10
The broad strokes are there, but you also need to consider the particular integral to make your solution complete.

I have appended the detailed workings below for your reference, hope it helps. Peace.

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