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Reply 60
Original post by Foghorn Leghorn
^^^^Logic WIN^^^^


Exactly what I said and felt :lol:
Original post by najinaji
I was saying that to the other person, but never mind...
Lack of sympathy is not a 'symptom' of autism. The inability to display sympathy is.


"Inability to display sympathy?" I think, you're mistaken. Autism and other pervasive developmental disorders like Asperger's, all have "limited empathy/sympathy" as part of their DSM criteria, not inability to display sympathy. They lack the ability to understand certain social cues and body language, which describes the emotions of people around them.

Original post by najinaji

"What you described is autistic, what they described isn't. Most autistic people would still be pretty emotionally affected by some sort of tragedy.


Yes, they would be...if it affected them directly. The example he used, was not feeling sad about people dying in an accident shown on the news, which to be honest is maybe natural or it may not be. But don't start trying to paint some picture "that an Autistic person sheds a tear for every death in the world", when I doubt you burst into tears when 100 Kashmiri soldiers were killed by an avalanche last week. The example you use is a poor one.

Original post by najinaji

True-ish. Though not all sociopaths are unaware of their surroundings and many are very sneaky in getting around these barriers. Also, how does this make him autistic?


Not all sociopaths, but most are. And the one's that do, will have varying degrees of insight. They might be aware of their violent conduct or anger, but not the fact that the thoughts they are having are bad ones.

The diagnosis of autism/Asperger's syndrome isn't known as a didactic or precise process because it is a spectrum, ranging from people with barely noticeable traits to those who can't even walk or communicate and have the developmental age of a 2 year old. If he has insight, then that would make me lean towards him having Asperger's or high-functioning autism, where he is very much mentally able, but has a few issues interpreting emotions, understanding social context and limited sympathy/empathy.

In all, I have my reasons for saying that he is probably autistic. I know nothing of OP's past, but I'm sure if it was a sociopathic issue other things would've come through.
Reply 62
Original post by Helloworld_95
Aspergers and other Autistic spectrum disorders leads to a lack of emotion, not just a lack of empathy which the OP is describing which is sociopathy.

Personally I think Sociopathy isn't used liberally enough in society, and also it's still up to be proven whether sociopathy is due to genetics or experience, might be due to both or either.


I thought the definition of sociopath was a disorder caused by environmental factors whereas psychopath is the same disorder NOT caused by the environment ie, the 'socio' part refers to the influence of society/life and 'psycho' refers to an internal cause which we may now call genetic or so forth.

That was my understanding of how they use the two labels.

:smile:
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Maybe you should start reading up on Laveyan Satanism :P
Reply 64
I knew Death-Eaters ARE FOR REAL!! :afraid:
Err....you need help mate.
Good for you!

There was simply no way I could resist that.

On a more serious note - given that you are an object, why should we care?
Original post by catoswyn
I thought the definition of sociopath was a disorder caused by environmental factors whereas psychopath is the same disorder NOT caused by the environment ie, the 'socio' part refers to the influence of society/life and 'psycho' refers to an internal cause which we may now call genetic or so forth.

That was my understanding of how they use the two labels.

:smile:


Psychopathy is just the old name for sociopathy
Original post by geditor
You're the new Sylar from Heroes.


Gets my vote.
Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly
I know for a fact that I'm an evil person. I don't deserve a place in society but the only thing keeping me as a normal functioning member of society is the fact I can control the urges. I'm 100% not normal.

Other people like to see other people happy. I like to see people sad. It makes me feel better about myself and makes me aware of the fact that I'm not the only one going through stuff in my life. Why wouldn't it lift my spirits?

Reasons I am not normal



Death doesn't faze me. Nothing does.

I have a strange view of people. I see them as objects who can be discarded easily rather than emotional beings

I only care about myself and close people, everyone else doesn't matter

I don't feel emotion at all

When bad things happen in the news, I don't really care. Everyone pretends that they're sympathetic but I'm more interested in the event than the actual loss of life. Why should I care about some random folk?

I don't care about sex any more because people use it as a scapegoat to show love when its all a farce. People do it for their own self gratification, nothing more, nothing less.

I don't go out of my way to make others look bad but when they bring it upon themselves it makes me happy.

I'm not aggressive, I just sit back and let it play out.

I believe life is one big farce where people put on a show, rarely showing the real them. Nature intended for survival of the fittest but man has ruined nature and forced so called moral values upon others

I do my best to blend into society to not cause a fuss

I pity gullible good people who take me at face value. I see them as weak and easy to break down like puppets on a string

I have evil thoughts all the time but never act on them. I'm not that stupid. Society doesn't take too kindly to those who act as nature intended but would rather people act by societies rules and be dictated to.



Anyone else feel like this? I try to be normal but its like acting and very stressful. Sometimes its so hard to keep going to blend in. Whenever I watch something on a TV show that involves blood or someone who is sick and twisted it gets me interested. I never like the good guys in TV shows, always the villains, because I feel I have a relation to them :smile:



you any good at deduction by any chance?
You just sound like a pessimist to me.

Lighten the **** up.

Original post by pshewitt1
you any good at deduction by any chance?


Is this a reference to Sherlock Holmes, or Grimm?
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Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly

[*]I pity gullible good people who take me at face value. I see them as weak and easy to break down like puppets on a string


oh dear i'm guessing your one of those low life insecure bullies at school who makes himself feel good by picking on people. It maybe because you've had no love and attention from your mother and father so you do it to make yourself feel better about yourself.

Either that or your just plain weird.
Reply 72
Call that evil.
Original post by medic_armadillo7
I'm telling you, it' is not sociopathy, because sociopathy is generally a disorder of violence and those who have antisocial personality disorders (sociopaths) are often unaware of it, and have usually been labelled as having a conduct disorder before the age of 18,have had several run-ins with the police and have had a horrible upbring involving neglect, physical, sexual and emotional abuse. It is not a light diagnosis, like being a little depressed or anxious. OP obviously has emotions, but the picture I'm getting is that it's not necessarily appropriate to the emotions to the people around him, which is classic of autism spectrum disorders. I don't know OP personally, but the description is almost classic. Not to mention that despite the scaremongering of some undercover report into sociopathy/antisocial personality disorders, they are exceedingly rare, and if there's is anything wrong it is more likely to be Asperger's/High-functioning autism or if I am wrong (a conduct disorder). Again, people use the term sociopath, far too lightly for what is a very serious mental health disorder. My point is if you've ever spent time and managed such patients, you wouldn't be saying that


You seem to conflate psychopathy with sociopathy (a label, which at the moment is actually contested). Sociopaths are not violent at all, especially not of necessity. OP has only mentioned a few of the things that he's done/thought about, but this is likely not an exhaustive list, so you can't say for sure that he isn't sociopathic. Moreover, it is bad faith to attempt to diagnose a person over the internet without a full set of information. Sociopaths in fact have emotions (albeit shallow ones), and possessing a slightly higher level of intelligence than the general population, it is not uncommon for them to be self-reflective. In other words they can observe that there is "something wrong" with them, just as the OP has stated. Psychopathy and sociopathy are still not generally understood, neither etiology nor the condition itself, so please don't pretend to be an expert. OP could be a sociopath or just a narcissist, we can't tell from the information he's given...or maybe he just suffers from a case of schadenfreude.
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Original post by IAmTheWumAndOnly
I know for a fact that I'm an evil person. I don't deserve a place in society but the only thing keeping me as a normal functioning member of society is the fact I can control the urges. I'm 100% not normal.

Other people like to see other people happy. I like to see people sad. It makes me feel better about myself and makes me aware of the fact that I'm not the only one going through stuff in my life. Why wouldn't it lift my spirits?

Reasons I am not normal



Anyone else feel like this? I try to be normal but its like acting and very stressful. Sometimes its so hard to keep going to blend in. Whenever I watch something on a TV show that involves blood or someone who is sick and twisted it gets me interested. I never like the good guys in TV shows, always the villains, because I feel I have a relation to them :smile:


There is an idea of a coolmushroom; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there.
Too many people in this thread fancy themselves to be professional psychologists.
Reply 77
You remind me of uchiha Itachi
Reply 78
You're just a bit sociopathic, it might pass. Was it a major life event that befell you? You probably saw it as a serious challenge to your superiority complex, but because the perpetrator was just the luck of the draw, you have nothing to re-assert your superiority over other than "the world".

You're probably just a bit too smart for your own good, to be honest, so you see through all these farces and are constantly looking for a deeper meaning. That's always going to give you a negative outlook. I may be projecting though as I have similar thought patterns.
We need to talk about OP.

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