Hunting:Your views?

OP, you are what separates us humans from the animals - and makes us worse than them.

You can understand death, pain, terror, an ability that no other animal has and still you chose to inflict these for no reason other than your own pleasure. In this you have done a deed worse than any non-human animal has ever committed in the history of earth. I would genuinely much rather see an arrow through your brain than an innocent deer or antelope.

If karma exists (which unfortunately it doesn't) you will be visited by a sadistic serial killer (which you essentially are) who would be able to inflict on you what you have done to these creatures.

Hmm me thinks you need to be on a watch list.
Wishing the death of millions of people.


Killing an animal is in no way comparable to killing a human being.

I presume you also are a vegetarian?

Killing an animal is in no way comparable to killing a human being.

I wouldn't say I wish it, I just find the death of the type of person that kills for fun preferable to an innocent animal. I wish we could live in a state of respect for our fellow animals.

And yes, it is extremely comparable, humans are animals you know.

And a vegan, actually.

What would be your reasoning for this?

I am of the Homosapien-centric view that we are superior by virtue of being us, if not superior certainly a distinct species, and as such in the same way other animals may hunt and kill different species without facing retribution or fault, so do we obtain the right to hunt and kill other species.

I am of the Homosapien-centric view that we are superior by virtue of being us, if not superior certainly a distinct species, and as such in the same way other animals may hunt and kill different species without facing retribution or fault, so do we obtain the right to hunt and kill other species.

Ok, it seems to me there is a bit of a contradiction in there.

On the one hand you are saying we are superior by virtue of being a separate and distinct species to the other animals. You are emphasising that we as Homo sapiens are different to the rest of the animal kingdom.

Your second point however is emphasising our likeness to the rest of the animal kingdom, and suggesting that because of our similarities we can partake in the same activities.

That is no logical justification, its just saying you put your subjective view above all others.

You cannot compare human hunting to animals killing each other because we are in a unique position.

We can understand the effects of our actions and more importantly can choose to behave differently. A Lion must kill to survive, humans do not need to.

Saying animals do it so I can is poor justification. Animals kill and rape members of their own species, does this means humans should to?

Of course, we are different in the sense that a butterfly by virtue of obvious characteristics is different than a Zebra.
Yet both are the same in that they are animals.

We are different in the virtue that we are Homosapiens, we have certain strengths and weaknesses unique to us, yet are simmiler in that we are animals.

Indeed we are, which is why I respect the Animals I hunt immensely.



Good for you, I was a vegetarian for a few years, never managed to make the jump to Vegan, just didn't have the commitment.

If not, then why do our differences between us and and the animal kingdom make us superior? Which of our specific characteristics make us superior to the rest of the animal kingdom?

It seems pretty psychopathic to kill something you respect.

I do


Power.

That's all as a human I can do.

But humans are Animals, our unique intelligence, is no different than any other unique trait a species may have.
Those traits are irrelevant this discussion on morality


Yes I understand the effects, I accept the effects and I choose to hunt.
What is the problem, you have not given me a "reason" to behave differently.
And? That is not relevant to my original point. Animals can't be judged for killing because they have no choice and don't understand the effects. We can choose and do understand so can be judged for killing animals.

We shouldn't if we value self-preservation of our species, which I do.
You said that it is ok to do something just because animals do it. Apply this rule to other situations and you condone rape and murder. It might not be a good idea but as far as your logic goes it isn't wrong.

If you want to rape though...that's up to you, though I would warn you there are laws in place to punish such activities, and you should be careful.

So the only problem with rape is that is it illegal? That is worrying.

You can't edit out most of my post and then attempt to answer it with three words.

Also, I don't think 'power' is a very well thought out answer to the question of which characteristics make us superior to other animals

Is this power constant? If you were faced with a tiger and had no weapon to defend yourself, would you still have an inherent 'power' over the animal?

Or is the power only available to Homo sapiens when armed with a weapon?

In that case your right to kill it would only be available when you had a weapon which means your argument that Homo sapiens are superior over the rest of the animal kingdom becasue they have an inherent power, falls flat.

Not at all, enemies may respect one another.
Though I would not consider an animal my enemy, during the hunt it is surely my target and the hunt only ends satisfactorily when it has been killed.

I respect the animals life, it's essence, I offer it to the Aesir after the kill in respect of the animal's life and of the Aesir themselves

, in respect I kill it as cleanly and as quickly as I am able, and use all of it's carcass as best I can.

Those traits are irrelevant this discussion on morality

And? That is not relevant to my original point. Animals can't be judged for killing because they have no choice and don't understand the effects. We can choose and do understand so can be judged for killing animals.

You said that it is ok to do something just because animals do it. Apply this rule to other situations and you condone rape and murder. It might not be a good idea but as far as your logic goes it isn't wrong.