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Reply 20
Original post by SpiggyTopes
It's not just students, it's everybody else too. In polling, Conservatives are quite consistently ahead of Labour by about 10% in the 18-24 group.


I suspect you'd get higher than that amongst students though. From what I remember of the 2010 election talking to people the Tory numbers seemed roughly the same as Labour at home, who once won my constituency with 80% of the vote. Is there student specific polling done?
Reply 21
Original post by Clare~Bear
The people currently in education don't remember thatcher though. Although it is still surprising. I mean on the news lately, they've been praising her, but surely the adults who can remmeber her and were affected by her policies, saying how they hate her would sway the young people more ?There's a thread about this somewhere, asking if the tuition fee rise and bedroom tax is enough to persuade people who've never voted, to vote labour. But people were pointing out that most students will be better of under the new system. Unless you earn millions, you won't pay it all off, so actually many people will only be paying a bit more than what the old fees were anyway because they get wiped after so many years anyway.
I think over the issue of tuition fee rises there is a gross misunderstanding of how it's actually going to effect people, lots of people I've met have been ignorant to the fact that if you cannot pay off the loan you don't have to as the amount you pay is based off your income. Also it expires in 30 years . No-one cannot afford to go to university.
Reply 22
Well the students that I come in contact with are often middle class and from the south so I'm not really surprised to see more and more right wingers. However there are those lefty, liberal, hippie wannabes you see knocking about but...they don't count.
Original post by roh
I suspect you'd get higher than that amongst students though. From what I remember of the 2010 election talking to people the Tory numbers seemed roughly the same as Labour at home, who once won my constituency with 80% of the vote. Is there student specific polling done?


Not that I know of.
Original post by JamesGibson
I've found also that students tend to have high aspirations to go into high-earning jobs and that sort of demographic typically favours the Conservative mindset. But maybe that changes once they've left uni and realize how bad the job market actually is.

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Original post by PythianLegume
Corrected :tongue:


I don't know why so many people have that perception, probably because most of them have never visited the North.
Original post by SpiggyTopes
I don't know why so many people have that perception, probably because most of them have never visited the North.


It's based on the fact that there are very few Conservative constituencies up North.
Reply 27
Original post by PythianLegume
Corrected :tongue:


Yes, that's is. A persons demographic has a fair impact, due to the fact that people in the south earn their own money, and have a strong desire to continue doing so. This is opposed to the people in the north, who consider themselves to have a low mobility of labour, and simply aren't willing to move to find a job.
Reply 28
Original post by Clare~Bear
The people currently in education don't remember thatcher though. Although it is still surprising. I mean on the news lately, they've been praising her, but surely the adults who can remmeber her and were affected by her policies, saying how they hate her would sway the young people more ?


Yet another slating of possibly the greatest politician of modern times. :congrats:
Reply 29
Original post by brennan94
Anyone else find it odd how many Tory supporting students you meet these days?


Nar, right wing propaganda is always very effective in times of fear.

I'm not normally one to complain about negs but i'm really struggling to see whats so disagreeable in this post, anyone?
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Original post by PythianLegume
It's based on the fact that there are very few Conservative constituencies up North.



Very few?

I've chosen the 2010 election because that's the closest one there has been in recent history.
Original post by SpiggyTopes

Very few?

I've chosen the 2010 election because that's the closest one there has been in recent history.


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It appears more blue because the Tory constituencies are larger.
Reply 32
Original post by PythianLegume
Corrected :tongue:


There's a few in the Midlands too. Rare breed up North or outside England though.
Original post by PythianLegume
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It appears more blue because the Tory constituencies are larger.


You said 'very few', that's not very few, it's a big minority.
Original post by SpiggyTopes
You said 'very few', that's not very few, it's a big minority.


Well fine, I'm sorry for making a joke that perpetuated the idea of the North being Labour and the South Tory.
I'd have thought it mostly depends on the university, family background, what they're studying. Generalising here, but I've found most medical students/doctors to be more left leaning than in other professions. I mean if you look at the complete mess the government's made of the NHS, it's not hard to see why.


EDIT: oh ok, so more right-leaning medics than I thought, or maybe just fans of the slow destruction of our health system.
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Original post by PythianLegume
Well fine, I'm sorry for making a joke that perpetuated the idea of the North being Labour and the South Tory.


:h:
What happens is that some students grow up in a Labour/socialist bubble in inner cities or ex-industrial areas, then they go to uni and live in the student union politics bubble, which leads to them thinking that everyone their age shares these political views. Nothing much wrong with this of course, you can't really help these things. Tory voters can obviously grow up in a bubble as well, although the Labour bubbles more likely to lead to people forgetting that there is roughly an equal number of people with the opposite view.


Here's an example of someone living in a bubble. The fact that Thatcher being elected 3 times in a row means that a plurality of voters actually supported Thatchers policies, and that most of them are still alive today, is lost on her.

Original post by Clare~Bear
The people currently in education don't remember thatcher though. Although it is still surprising. I mean on the news lately, they've been praising her, but surely the adults who can remmeber her and were affected by her policies, saying how they hate her would sway the young people more ?
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Original post by brennan94
Anyone else find it odd how many Tory supporting students you meet these days?


No more or less than seen previously. Also note tha TSR isn't indicitive of the entire UK student population.
Original post by nExow
I think over the issue of tuition fee rises there is a gross misunderstanding of how it's actually going to effect people, lots of people I've met have been ignorant to the fact that if you cannot pay off the loan you don't have to as the amount you pay is based off your income. Also it expires in 30 years . No-one cannot afford to go to university.


Thats what I said. I disagree with your last bit though. There are families classed as 'well off' because the parents earn over 40k, but depending on the family circumstances, they may not be able to/want to give any money to their children going to uni. These people then get hardly anything, if anything at all from student finance and the same from their parents, meaning they can't afford uni. Although how many people this happens to is debatable.


Original post by glelin96
Yet another slating of possibly the greatest politician of modern times. :congrats:


I wasn't slating off Thatcher. I was just saying it how it is. Recently the media has been showing her good side, but if you're from a former mining family etc, at home you're likely to hear how evil she was and how she took away peoples jobs.

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