Should You Receive Benefits If Your "Laziness" Is Caused By A Mental Health Condition

The different is that when you have to you can. I can't.

Well actually I have a parent who works in Mental Health so I have heard quite a lot about it thank you. And again you offer no solutions, you even admit tax payers have to fund years of diagnosis which is never 100% certain anyway, how do you justify that? Why should we pay for people to fraud the system? And before you get all aggressive, I actually support people receiving what they need if it is justified, but some people take the absolute piss and they are allowed to get away with it, especially in the public sector in this country. You have people on around 70k a year, going on 2 years stress leave on full pay (heard this on several occasions) , this kind of rubbish just didn't happen back in the day (say pre 1950's - 80's) , its not people are more likely to get mentally ill now than back then.


People just need to get some perspective, after WW1 soldiers with legs blown off were stuck in workhouses with no job prospects and no benefits and nowadays people can take 2 years off a taxpayer funded well-payed job because of stress? How is that right?

Why do people without mental illnesses think they're an authority on it? It would be like a white person telling a black person racism is no big deal.

The different is that when you have to you can. I can't.

Right, so because something works for some people it must work for everyone or we leave those that it doesn't work to deal with it on their own...

Being able to do most things is in our minds. You're not physically paralyzed, therefore yes you can if you convinced yourself.

It's funny how people with physical disabilities complain less than those with mental ...

1) Medication doesn't work for 6/7 Just because they don't kill themselves doesn't mean it works. Look it up.

Well I've been told by straight, cis men than there is no homophobia and transphobia in this country and the only sexism is towards men.

People just love to hate those that are less fortunate than them.

Well actually I have a parent who works in Mental Health so I have heard quite a lot about it thank you. And again you offer no solutions, you even admit tax payers have to fund years of diagnosis which is never 100% certain anyway, how do you justify that? Why should we pay for people to fraud the system? And before you get all aggressive, I actually support people receiving what they need if it is justified, but some people take the absolute piss and they are allowed to get away with it, especially in the public sector in this country. You have people on around 70k a year, going on 2 years stress leave on full pay (heard this on several occasions) , this kind of rubbish just didn't happen back in the day (say pre 1950's - 80's) , its not people are more likely to get mentally ill now than back then.


People just need to get some perspective, after WW1 soldiers with legs blown off were stuck in workhouses with no job prospects and no benefits and nowadays people can take 2 years off a taxpayer funded well-payed job because of stress? How is that right?

Well you're implying that the 1/7 killed themselves because medication didn't work, logic follows that 6/7 who continue to treat their condition function perfectly well.





lol you think I'm jealous? that's what you put it down to

You're just digging yourself in a deeper hole. You're not faced with a debilitating mental or physical condition, you have bouts of highs and lows, more extreme than the rest of us but you can get through it, I have faith in you



......and you're perpetuating this stigma that people with psychological issues are lazy and inept.

"negative symptoms" are not a constant occurrence and feeling depressed or bipolar doesn't greatly inhibit you from doing your work. I'm sure if you had a family to feed you wouldn't use that petty excuse. No one should foot the bill for your laziness because you just don't "feel like" going to work today.

Stop whining.

Most of the time I don't complain. I just get on with what I can do. But when someone tells me I'm making this up I'm going to get angry because I need to stand up for myself and those who aren't strong enough to.

Well actually I have a parent who works in Mental Health so I have heard quite a lot about it thank you. And again you offer no solutions, you even admit tax payers have to fund years of diagnosis which is never 100% certain anyway, how do you justify that? Why should we pay for people to fraud the system? And before you get all aggressive, I actually support people receiving what they need if it is justified, but some people take the absolute piss and they are allowed to get away with it, especially in the public sector in this country. You have people on around 70k a year, going on 2 years stress leave on full pay (heard this on several occasions) , this kind of rubbish just didn't happen back in the day (say pre 1950's - 80's) , its not people are more likely to get mentally ill now than back then.


People just need to get some perspective, after WW1 soldiers with legs blown off were stuck in workhouses with no job prospects and no benefits and nowadays people can take 2 years off a taxpayer funded well-payed job because of stress? How is that right?

The standard one that is prescribed work perfectly well for 90% of people, seriously what's your point? that all medication should have 100% efficacy otherwise it's useless? if that;s the case we should withdraw virtually all modern treatments.

There are a thousands of other people who will say the exact opposite. They coped with their illness to get to uni and managed graduate from it and lead successful lives. I'm not trying to come off as insensitive here but I just don't see that as a good enough excuse.

People just need to get some perspective, after WW1 soldiers with legs blown off were stuck in workhouses with no job prospects and no benefits and nowadays people can take 2 years off a taxpayer funded well-payed job because of stress? How is that right?

1) I'm talking about mental health services as a whole. Therapy, medication, crisis teams, CPNs etc. I don't understand why you can't see this

Do you know any parents that suffer from depression?

Because I do.

She can't even motivate herself to get out of bed in the morning to take her children to school never mind work to feed them.

She took the kids to Disneyland Paris and lay in bed all day every day. Luckily my godmother was there to take the eldest out but the youngest wouldn't go without her.

Ah, the good old "it doesn't affect me so therefore it doesn't happen". Just yesterday on my facebook feed, there was a woman making very horrible comments about a lady who she thought was trans. A photo had been shared by a body positive blogger I liked, and was getting comments like "why are you sharing this, this is for real women, shes not real she looks like a transgender". "A transgender". Because transwomen aren't real people, let alone real women! As it turns out, the woman isn't trans, but that isn't the point.

It pissed me off.

Let's just agree to disagree; you stand your point, I will stand mine.

But one interesting anecdote: I know a lady who labeled herself as having depression; so she does nothing to look after her 8 year old son and sleeps whole day like most people with 'depression' ... However, offer her to go shopping and that's entirely different story altogether.