'I don't need feminism because...'

That is the most logical response to that question I have ever heard. Well done.

Although that is a silly statement. Considering that only men can commit rape that gives us a pretty unfair basis on which to start. Then we have to look that most men are straight about 99% in fact. So naturally from that you would see that most rapes happen to women.

I think this movement is largely directed towards western feminism, ie the feminists that actually get a media voice these days. I doubt any of these women posting will not want to stand up for women's rights in other countries where they genuinely lack equal rights - though ironically 'western feminists' don't really seem to care about these issues.

I really don't think this is why. Sure in some cases people may believe this, but most are only thinking of their small world. Statements like 'I don't need feminism because I have all the rights I need!' are common. Not all people are thinking so hard about the fundamentals and consequences of movements.

None; I don't think anyone disputes this? Feminism has achieved a lot in the century or so it's been fighting for women's rights here in the west, especially in the UK. Once again the definition of feminism is political, economic, and social equality.
In the UK I think women do have political equality, we're protected by exactly the same laws as men and legally must be treated the same.
Economically in the UK the wage gap still sometimes exists but it's small and ever improving, I don't see it as something that needs much work now, as we're protected by the same political rights, our economic rights have been ever increasing.
Socially is the only area that really needs improving - there are a lot of small social inequalities women face; like the significantly higher chance of being raped than men, and domestic abuse. As well as smaller things like cat-calling and being shamed for sleeping around more than men.

However outside the west, and even in other western countries women are not so fortunate as we are.

Well, men can be raped by women but it works slightly differently. That aside; let's focus on rape only perpetuated by men for the sake of simplicity.
The problem with rape against women I guess is what some people would call a 'rape culture' where women are often blamed for their rapes, rapists get away with raping, women are told not to get drunk, to wear modest clothes, etc if they don't want to be raped. If someone is raped it is the rapists fault. Although only a tiny percentage of men rape women, all women are in some way fearful of rape from men, and have to take measures to avoid it which is a problem.

And conversely, male rape victims aren't even RECOGNISED as rape victims because legally women can't rape, but male sexual assault victims aren't taken seriously, men have a significantly higher chance than women of being falsely accused of rape. Male domestic violence victims aren't taken seriously (there was a video recently demonstrating the different attitudes to a man abusing a woman in public and vice versa), and male virgins are shamed/ridiculed. This is therefore not a feminist issue and simply fighting for female rights will achieve nothing, and seems inherently unfair. These are gender issues that all people should be against.

I think it's incredibly patronising of you to say that women will, on the most part, oppose feminism because they don't understand it or are so selfish as to not care about other people's troubles as long as they are catered to. You seem to be in denial that anti-feminist feeling can exist to any significant extent on rational grounds. You pull quotations and attitudes out of thin air and insist that they are more common than basic intelligence and reasoning skills without any evidence whatsoever. I for one think men and women who oppose feminism are on the whole intelligent individuals who have come to the conclusion that the movement is deleterious to society, and I think it is a sign of the weakness of your position that you feel the need to dismiss these people because they're selfish and 'not thinking so hard', otherwise they would surely agree with you.

The movement is what it's followers and supporters make it.

To commit rape one needs a penis. The laws is very clear.

That is called paranoia. There is nothing you can do to stop people thinking they are constantly in danger.

Everyone should take measures in reducing their chance of being a victim of any crime, it is common sense.

And conversely, male rape victims aren't even RECOGNISED as rape victims because legally women can't rape, but male sexual assault victims aren't taken seriously, men have a significantly higher chance than women of being falsely accused of rape. Male domestic violence victims aren't taken seriously (there was a video recently demonstrating the different attitudes to a man abusing a woman in public and vice versa), and male virgins are shamed/ridiculed. This is therefore not a feminist issue and simply fighting for female rights will achieve nothing, and seems inherently unfair. These are gender issues that all people should be against.

One can only speak from experience of course. I know many women, and some men, who were anti-feminist because they'd either only thought about it from one angle, or had a bad experience with it and reasonably come to the conclusion it was bad. But years later after learning more about the movement, what it's done for womens rights, and the different perspectives of the movement and those part of it, they have become feminists themselves, or at least not anti-feminist. I didn't say I completely dismissed anyone who was anti-feminist, no need to be rude.

I don't think you'll find many people, regardless of their view on feminism, who don't see these problems as issues that need addressing though. By fighting for women's rights and issue's, you don't have to ignore ones that affect men.

Imo no feminism doesn't care about men's issues because it isn't about men's issues, it's a movement about women's issues.

The movement is what it's followers and supporters make it.

I don't think you'll find many people, regardless of their view on feminism, who don't see these problems as issues that need addressing though. By fighting for women's rights and issue's, you don't have to ignore ones that affect men.

But why do you think a few wackos on tumblr represent an entire movement?

Everyone should take measures in reducing their chance of being a victim of any crime, it is common sense.

A lot "meninists" condone rape, marital rape and domestic violence. Should I therefore assume that the purpose of any such group is establish a system in which females are subservient rather than to draw attention to issues that men face.

After all, a movement is what it's followers and supporters make it.


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Well, men can be raped by women but it works slightly differently. That aside; let's focus on rape only perpetuated by men for the sake of simplicity.
The problem with rape against women I guess is what some people would call a 'rape culture' where women are often blamed for their rapes, rapists get away with raping, women are told not to get drunk, to wear modest clothes, etc if they don't want to be raped. If someone is raped it is the rapists fault. Although only a tiny percentage of men rape women, all women are in some way fearful of rape from men, and have to take measures to avoid it which is a problem.

Obviously, from what I've seen it's not simply 'a few wackos on tumblr'. It is a significant proportion of the movement, some are more obvious about it and some aren't.