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Original post by Zxyn
But you don’t think given her intelligence a rehabilitation program would likely be more successful? There are cases where poorer class offenders get off or finish their sentence only to recommit crimes. The main questions asked when making a judgment are did they commit the crime? will they commit this or a similar crime again? And does this make them a threat to society?

I don’t think giving her another chance is the problem, I think not being fair with how they give chances is the problem.


I'm all for rehab but not because she's intelligent. That makes it worse to me. She is clearly smart enough to understand law, its underpinnings, the damage she was trying to do, the effects of addiction etc and she decided none of that mattered and she'd do it anyway. Her level of understanding actually makes her crime worse.

She's a regular coke taker who stabbed someone and threw stuff at them for disagreeing with her (basically). Someone that self absorbed is the biggest danger to society because despite all her potential, all her money and her intelligence she still regularly took drugs and committed GBH due to a disagreement. She will stab people with bread knife for not validating her. You don't get much more dangerous than that.

I agree with the last part. If rehab was given out fairly I would either be complaining about the way it was done overall, or saying nothing. The fact she got special treatment because she had prospects is what's driving me up the wall.
The seven social classesElite - This is the wealthiest and most privileged group in the UK. They went to private school and elite universities and enjoy high cultural activities such as listening to classical music and going to the opera.Established middle class - This is the most gregarious and the second wealthiest of all the class groups. They work in traditional professions and socialise with a wide variety of people, and take part in a wide variety of cultural activities.Technical middle class - This is a small, distinctive and prosperous new class group. They prefer emerging culture, such as social media, and mix mainly among themselves. They work in science and tech and come from middle-class backgrounds.New affluent workers - These people are economically secure, without being well-off. This class group is sociable, has lots of cultural interests and sits in the middle of all the groups in terms of wealth. They're likely to come from working class backgrounds.Traditional working class - This group has the oldest average age, and they're likely to own their own home. They mix among themselves and don't enjoy emerging culture. Jobs in this group include lorry drivers, cleaners and electricians.Emergent service workers - These young people have high social and cultural capital - so they know people from all different walks of life, and enjoy a wide range of cultural activities - but are not financially secure.Precariat - The poorest and most deprived social group. They tend to mix socially with people like them and don't have a broad range of cultural interests. More than 80% rent their home.
I think you would struggle to find a society more obsessed with class than Britain.

I think it's really interesting when you talk to people from other countries who just don't really get the way our class system works. In many other countries (not all, of course), class is mostly about money and the material possessions you have, maybe the job you have and your education level come into it too. However, to the English especially, class pervades every aspect of your life- from the sports you watch and the way you spend your free time, to the language you use, the way you furnish your home, the things you value etc. etc.

Something I think a lot of people from outside the UK don't really get is that it's possible to be working class and really quite wealthy, and that it's actually quite difficult to change your class- usually it's a generational process. I think the other thing that people from outside the UK don't understand is that some people are proud to be working class, and wouldn't necessarily want to be seen as middle class, even if they have a relatively middle class lifestyle.
Original post by SarcAndSpark
I think you would struggle to find a society more obsessed with class than Britain.

I think it's really interesting when you talk to people from other countries who just don't really get the way our class system works. In many other countries (not all, of course), class is mostly about money and the material possessions you have, maybe the job you have and your education level come into it too. However, to the English especially, class pervades every aspect of your life- from the sports you watch and the way you spend your free time, to the language you use, the way you furnish your home, the things you value etc. etc.

Something I think a lot of people from outside the UK don't really get is that it's possible to be working class and really quite wealthy, and that it's actually quite difficult to change your class- usually it's a generational process. I think the other thing that people from outside the UK don't understand is that some people are proud to be working class, and wouldn't necessarily want to be seen as middle class, even if they have a relatively middle class lifestyle.

The class system and debate are interesting to follow. There are people afforded respect based solely on the class rank that they occupy. I watched a documentary about the aristocracy and landed gentry. One woman who was married into an aristocratic family had lamented that the class system deceives people into thinking that everyone is wealthy or rich.

The woman had said that prior to marrying into her husband’s family, they did not have a lot, just the stately home that had passed down from generation to generation in a Trust and they did not even live in it. She was the one (apparently) who began to lease it for weddings and tours before it generated income from the property.
Original post by Wired_1800
The class system and debate are interesting to follow. There are people afforded respect based solely on the class rank that they occupy. I watched a documentary about the aristocracy and landed gentry. One woman who was married into an aristocratic family had lamented that the class system deceives people into thinking that everyone is wealthy or rich.

The woman had said that prior to marrying into her husband’s family, they did not have a lot, just the stately home that had passed down from generation to generation in a Trust and they did not even live in it. She was the one (apparently) who began to lease it for weddings and tours before it generated income from the property.

Did not have a lot, apart from a huge asset? There's loads of people in this country who won't inherit anything from their parents, so my sympathy is somewhat limited.
Original post by SarcAndSpark
Did not have a lot, apart from a huge asset? There's loads of people in this country who won't inherit anything from their parents, so my sympathy is somewhat limited.

Some people dont want to sell the only asset that has been passed through generations.
Original post by Wired_1800
Some people dont want to sell the only asset that has been passed through generations.

That's fine, and I do understand that PoV, but relative to the rest of the population, they are still very lucky.

I'm afraid I find people who live in "genteel poverty" in huge houses and complain about it very annoying.
Original post by SarcAndSpark
That's fine, and I do understand that PoV, but relative to the rest of the population, they are still very lucky.

I'm afraid I find people who live in "genteel poverty" in huge houses and complain about it very annoying.

I agree. I think the perception is that they sell the asset, but some cant do that.

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