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Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
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Original post by tanyapotter
yes - she'll be at carr saunders, i believe! ironically, she'll be living closer to UCL than me, even though i'm going to UCL :colonhash:


You'll be able to catch up regularly then, so that's great! I hope you both enjoy yourselves :smile: (sorry if this posted twice? My app crashed)


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Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
London School of Economics
London
Reply 81
I've only heard bad things about the place, thank god I can't apply there. Is UCL/King's better?
My friend is going there
Original post by smegsxo
You'll be able to catch up regularly then, so that's great! I hope you both enjoy yourselves :smile: (sorry if this posted twice? My app crashed)


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i'm hoping i can just keep a stash of my things in her room so that i only have to travel to and from camden once a day :')
Reply 84
Original post by tanyapotter
would economics be classed as one of LSE's quant courses? i know i can't expect economics, of all degrees, to not be completely intense and demanding - but surely it would never go as far as to worsen her problems if sufficient help was available for her?

Sufficient help will most definitely be available to her so please dw
Reply 85
Original post by JohnGreek
That's not surprising if TSR is your only source. People are more likely to bother posting about things that they hate than they like, in threads which tend to be answered by people with similar views to them. I don't exactly see people in any university subforum creating "omg this uni is so great you should all come here!" threads. In some cases, like the OP's, the poster has actually experienced what's going on and is in a position to comment. In others, people just tend to relay the same stereotypes/biases they've accumulated from elsewhere. This creates a masssive echo chamber where the same bad stuff is regurgitated ad nauseum and the good stuff either goes unmentioned or is ignored.

You may also want to specify what measure of "better" you'd like to hear about.


TSR is certainly not my only source, I know plenty of people personally who went there and said it was absolute **** with no community whatsoever. This only confirms what I already know...

By better I mean in every aspect - socially, academically, in terms of societies and opportunities available etc.
Reply 86
Original post by JohnGreek
Those same people should have also warned you that you get plenty of chances to socialise with people from other London unis, and that a lot of the social aspect comes down to the accommodation you pick and the type of societies you join. Then, of course, it comes down to personal preference and what sort of character you are - two guys from my school who are both doing Econ there said that they loved how everyone was so like-minded as them in terms of their goals etc. My point is that one's experience varies massively and cannot be described in bold, all-encompassing terms. There's a lot more nuance here, something which OP rightfully acknowledged early on.

I don't think that this thread would be appropriate to start some sort of massive comparison between UCL/KCL/LSE. They all have their merits and demerits, and I imagine that academics and "opportunities" are impossible to gauge without knowing what course/career you're looking at.

Actually, most of this thread has come down to the social aspect, which is strange considering that OP made some very interesting points that people glossed over (such as, why does he think that the careers office is diabolical?)


I don't think it's fair to criticise those I know and say they did uni wrong, but I respect that not all people are going to think the same way about their uni experience. But honestly said, I have never heard anyone who has had anything nice to say about LSE. It's been overwhelmingly negative in comparison to what I've heard from other unis, and the complaints are always the same.
Reply 87
Original post by JohnGreek
I'm not criticising your friends for anything - just saying that there's a large variety in the type of experience you're likely to have, perhaps even more so than at other unis.

I agree with your second point - the vast majority of complaints I've heard regarded the cliqueyness and the mentality of the students there. I've also heard issues about the library being overcramped, and a few other things that there's little point mentioning right now. The only point I'm trying to make is that how people respond to these comes down to the individual and their priorities, and that there are plenty of other aspects of the uni about which we hear little to nothing about.

That's why I think that it's always beneficial to have threads like the OP's, but we need to be wary of people hijacking them with their overly simplistic views of the university.


Yeah I agree, you do need to be careful with these threads - but considering s/he's saying things I have heard time and time again I believe it - that's all.
Your experience is so similar to one of my favourite youtubers who also went to lse (fluerdeforce)
She did a video on her experience, I've linked it below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qneKSsLP0q4
Original post by KT942
Lol they're all snakes. I had one of them try to sabotage my internship application :/


LOL, care to elaborate? :smile:
Reply 90
Original post by rolaah
TSR is certainly not my only source, I know plenty of people personally who went there and said it was absolute **** with no community whatsoever. This only confirms what I already know...

By better I mean in every aspect - socially, academically, in terms of societies and opportunities available etc.


I m going to LSE this September and my checking with school seniors who went there are so far positive!
Reply 91
Original post by Jj15
I m going to LSE this September and my checking with school seniors who went there are so far positive!


And as I said - the experience will obvs change from person to person. Weirdly enough I find international students at LSE have a better time than British students...but if that's what they're saying then that's rly good and ultimately it is a fantastic uni so well done and good luck!
Reply 92
Original post by Jj15
I m going to LSE this September and my checking with school seniors who went there are so far positive!


I'm in the exact same boat. Everybody who I know personally who went loves LSE.
Original post by KT942
I'd rather not go into the specifics because I know a lot of lse students frequent TSR but its a quant degree


I knew about LSE's problems and wrote about it on this forum but some of the bigwigs on this forum with larger fan following than Preeti Patel brushed me off and called me all sorts of names. When I touched on the standard of teaching and the poor spoken English of many of the lecturers, people called me racist.

Thank you for sharing. It was very brave of you. Please do share more to expose the nonsense that happens at LSE.
Is there much/any interracial dating at the LSE in terms of white guys - asian girls?


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Reply 95
please can you tell me if UCL is also the same as LSE or is it is better in terms of socialising as well as studying?
Original post by JohnGreek
The only "problems" you spoke about was the level of the lecturer's English. It's funny because I distinctly remember you trying to rank the London unis for Law based on one recording of one lecture in one of their modules. I think that your nonsense is the exact reason why people take comments like yours' with a pinch of salt.


John, you are so yesterday. You're only jumping on the bandwagon now cos the OP got some 31 reps and this thread is picking up fast. Grow a spine, be original and make a change on this forum. If you cannot contribute positively then please go find a nice corner to polish all of your gem reps. Ok?
Reply 97
Original post by ddddvd
please can you tell me if UCL is also the same as LSE or is it is better in terms of socialising as well as studying?


A UCL recruiter came to my Summer school and when asked "why is student satisfaction so low" he said "some may argue that London universities may not treat their students as well as other universities" as an answer, shocking to say the least, but probably very honest. If student satisfaction is a big thing to you there are lots of other great universities around the country which you could apply to instead.

I don't think you should take my anecdote, or the person who started this thread's, to heart. Lots of people go to LSE and UCL and have a great time, you could have a good time too.
Reply 98
Original post by rolaah
I don't think it's fair to criticise those I know and say they did uni wrong, but I respect that not all people are going to think the same way about their uni experience. But honestly said, I have never heard anyone who has had anything nice to say about LSE. It's been overwhelmingly negative in comparison to what I've heard from other unis, and the complaints are always the same.


I loved it there. I know two people that went on to PhD's at top US unis. I know people who went to hedge funds. I know people that went to work for the government. I know people that studied like mad. I know people that partied like mad.

At the end of the day, the following points have a key impact on all this debate:

1. English - I had one lecturer there whose English was not perfect, but it was a small class and he was happy to discuss. The real problem are classes, which are not done by lecturers (usually) but postgrads. I got largely lucky on these ones again, too, but even if not, LSE is full of people that like to complain but not do anything. If you have trouble understanding, make them repeat it, make them speak slower. And in the end, you can always go to office hours - one of the most woefully underused aspects.

2. London - I guarantee you if LSE were on some campus somewhere outside London, it would get a lot better reviews.

All the rest is ******** and up to you. As I said, you wanna study, there will be people you can study with. You wanna party, you will find people. You want to join many societies, there are cool ones, and there is the entire UoL to explore. It is what you make of it, except point 2. above makes it a lot easier to make something of it.
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On the point about Chinese people being 'cliquey' though, I would just like to remind the OP that if you study in China (like I did) the exact same thing happens with westerners - they stick to groups and have little interest in making Chinese friends.

Now, I know you can't quite draw direct comparisons but I feel that in the case of studying in China, it's even slightly worse. Westerners there don't even need to understand Chinese to go to their lectures and the cultural gap in a sense doesn't really matter - it doesn't affect them so much if they don't make Chinese friends or don't learn anything since studying there is very cheap and often subsidised (sometimes free altogether). Common study destinations like Beijing and Shanghai are so westernised now that living a western nightlife there is totally possible and many do.

For Chinese students however things are different and living a Chinese life here is not easy. Also, the pressure and onus on them to learn something different abroad is very real. However, there's obviously a cultural problem for Chinese students in the UK in that they find it hard to fit in. I can totally understand why they become so-called 'cliquey'. If you try to speak their language they are surprisingly much more open to you.
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