Why abortion is wrong.

based on what?

Why abortion is RIGHT: first off, women should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies, it's not yours, why should you give a damn and say what they can or can't do? Secondly, what if a girl had been raped? Would she want an abortion? Probably. Women have the right to abortion because it is their decision what they choose to do.

Stop telling women what they can or cannot do.

Because the world is clearly not populated enough as it is without a considerably larger amount of babies being born.

Though I suppose it depends on your view of whether life begins at conception or at birth, I could respect your views while completely disagreeing with them.

One of the reasons is that even if the whole world did ban abortions then this wouldn't stop abortions taking place, in fact they'd probably have them in the back alleys by non certified doctors with the woman's survival rate severely decreasing. So if you're going to use the 'abortion is murder' argument then at least realize it's not going to stop them from happening it's just going to happen in much more dangerous situations.

Can you define 'early stages' for me though? This is the problem that the law has regarding anything to do with a foetus. When does it become a human?

Well technically it's always a human isn't it? But I think a good cut-off is the time when they can survive independent of the womb. There has to be a limit somewhere.

How so? Science considers sperm and eggs to be alive, but I doubt you'd consider them to be a human life.

Erm... What? I actually have no idea what you are going on about here.
"Living" = being alive.
"Having a life" = enjoying life.

You said if people don't want children then they shouldn't have sex. It follows, then, that you think sex is purely for reproductive purposes.

In that case, why are my assumptions wrong? Or is it one rule for you and one for everyone else?

Based on not wanting to have a child, I need the freedom of a childless existence

the human child is not a sperm cell or egg cell. after these cells join and become one, you no longer have the two individual cells. you have a new single cell that is has a completely different purpose.

biology does not describe this stage of life cycle as being an egg or sperm cell, nor does biology describe a human (or any animal) zygote as being a "part of/from" the parents' body. in humans, the zygote is attached to the mother.

biology also describes the offspring as having its own dna coding.
for humans, this means a new individual.

Why abortion is RIGHT: first off, women should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies, it's not yours, why should you give a damn and say what they can or can't do? Secondly, what if a girl had been raped? Would she want an abortion? Probably. Women have the right to abortion because it is their decision what they choose to do.

Stop telling women what they can or cannot do.

And that's why the law is as it is. Babies can survive at 23 weeks, there was a BBC documentary about it around a year ago - but of all the babies born live, only 1 in 500 survive to leave the neonatal unit. 24 weeks is a good limit, in my opinion.

then be responsible and act accordingly beforehand.

I have a ball in my hand. I drop the ball, now with interfering without the ball it will most definitely fall to the floor. This is its natural cycle. I let go, ball falls, ball hits the ground. The fact that the ball will fall is a fact. Now let me ask you, what is the difference between me releasing the ball, catching it before it even leaves my hand and burning it and me dropping the ball and catching it half-way and burning it. The answer is; there is none! You end a natural cycle before its definite end, you kill of the emotions, the experiences it was definitely going to have; you have killed a person.

Now let me give you some statistics:

196,082 abortions in the UK in 2011
44,000,000 abortions (that is 44 million) in the world
Let me put this in to perspective, in 10 years you have killed more than the population of the united States.

7% of abortions are for either a consequence of rape or health problems to the mother. The rest is because of social reasons. This just infuriates me, if you don't kill your fellow man to steal his money why kill your own child?

Millions are killed every year because people are unable to make an emotional connection with them just because they are bound in a sack of skin. The same people that say "How could the Nazis kill millions of people" well they did it the same way you do!

(the You refers to everyone supporting abortion)

Thank you for reading,

Gray Wolf


http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/may/24/abortion-statistics-england-wales

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/Sedgh-Lancet-2012-01.pdf

what I meant is that you should only have sex if you are emotionally and physically ready to have a child IF it was to occur. Be an adult and take responsibility for your actions. You know full well: having sex = possibility of a child. And if you can't handle that then simply don't have sex!! It irradiates the need for all these is abortion wrong/right arguments.

Also I think a women should be able to have an abortion in cases of rape if its done in the early stages of pregnancy, but rape only.

I know I'm going to get negged to death for saying something "against the standards of this day and age" and "old fashioned" But oh well.

I definitely don't blame you. I blame the society in which we live in. I'm sorry you had to go through all that, and its precisely the ordeal you went through is why I think this. Women and girls everywhere who have no choice but to abort because they aren't ready for a baby as it will ruin their life... but its not easy to just forget about the whole thing as if it never happened, like it wasn't a big deal. (this is what pro-abortionists commonly think and will have you believe) And maybe there are some women don't have an emotional connection to the foetus, it doesn't exude from the fact that loads do and abortion is very damaging emotionally.

If only there wasn't such a huge pressure to find partners at such a young age, boyfriends that you wouldn't for a minute think about getting married to and starting a family with and its all purely for pleasure, enjoyment and sex. And at the end of this short term agreement, guy gets sex, girl gets = ? and the guy drops her just like that, for petty reasons or simply because he got bored or maybe they both had an argument. What a huge waste of time, energy and emotions not just for the girl, but for both of them. And if a baby is to occur by accident, it is very common for the guy to want nothing to do with it and there is nothing in the law to state that he must take care of it and he just gets up and leaves. The girl in the situation is screwed over in every way. Noone sees that this an unfair exchange.

I think more emphasis should be put on having sex in stable relationships, (yes, preferably marriage), where if a baby was to occur by accident or not it would be welcomed and the whole argument of abortion wouldn't even exist.

That's just me though.

What I'm saying is you know full well that having sex = possible child. So if a child was to occur you should take full responsibility for your actions if a child was to occur as you are a grown adult who can make adult decisions while knowing the consequences. (well at least you should be.)

I know I'm going to get negged to death for saying something "against the standards of this day and age" and "old fashioned" But oh well.

I definitely don't blame you. I blame the society in which we live in. I'm sorry you had to go through all that, and its precisely the ordeal you went through is why I think this. Women and girls everywhere who have no choice but to abort because they aren't ready for a baby as it will ruin their life... but its not easy to just forget about the whole thing as if it never happened, like it wasn't a big deal. (this is what pro-abortionists commonly think and will have you believe) And maybe there are some women don't have an emotional connection to the foetus, it doesn't exude from the fact that loads do and abortion is very damaging emotionally.

If only there wasn't such a huge pressure to find partners at such a young age, boyfriends that you wouldn't for a minute think about getting married to and starting a family with and its all purely for pleasure, enjoyment and sex. And at the end of this short term agreement, guy gets sex, girl gets = ? and the guy drops her just like that, for petty reasons or simply because he got bored or maybe they both had an argument. What a huge waste of time, energy and emotions not just for the girl, but for both of them. And if a baby is to occur by accident, it is very common for the guy to want nothing to do with it and there is nothing in the law to state that he must take care of it and he just gets up and leaves. The girl in the situation is screwed over in every way. Noone sees that this an unfair exchange.

I think more emphasis should be put on having sex in stable relationships, (yes, preferably marriage), where if a baby was to occur by accident or not it would be welcomed and the whole argument of abortion wouldn't even exist.

That's just me though.