Are benefits still too generous in the UK?

Are benefits still too generous in the UK?

Considering we attract migrants from relatively poorer countries like Romania, Latvia, Poland etc

List of benefits people are eligible to receive:
- Child benefit
- Tax credits
- JSA
- Housing benefits
etc etc

I agree, don't judge people. But the overwhelming number of people who are single mothers are those who have slept around, had multiple kids from different partners, all have left them, and are now expecting society to pay for them being irresponsible and frankly easy.

Why labour invented this instead of raising the minimum wage to a living wage I cannot understand, I'm ashamed we live in a country with tax credits...

Can I ask how do you know that? You don't.

You're also contradicting yourself. You're saying don't judge people and then going on to judge people.

Why labour invented this instead of raising the minimum wage to a living wage I cannot understand, I'm ashamed we live in a country with tax credits...

Can I ask how do you know that? You don't.

You're also contradicting yourself. You're saying don't judge people and then going on to judge people.

Yes I do. Can I ask how you know that these people are all just unfortunate? You don't. You mention your family marrying criminals and the like; I can't be bothered to really read it but it is exactly that kind of nonsense that is the problem.

Ladies; stop getting knocked up by criminals, the workshy, etc and I won't judge.

There will always be some who make excuses for other people but to be honest if society is paying for your upkeep they have the right to judge you. Don't want to be judged? Don't make other people pay for your poor lifestyle choices.

You can't have your cake and eat it. If you don't want people to judge you than how about you stop living off of their hand outs. The country needs that money for things like national defence, GP's, infrastructure. You know, essential and deserving areas of expenditure.

The other person I mentioned is a friend of mine. She has mentioned a few times that she was married when her youngest child was born. Her childs father walked out on her when he was a baby.
Don't. Have. Unstable. Relationships. Some will always break down, but the sheer number of divorces today suggest that bad luck is not the case. I do like how you say I don't know what the truth is yet you repeatedly refer to anecdotal examples to prove your points.
I point to stats like divorce stats (easy to find), you use anecdotal evidence. I prefer my view that is also based on my observations during life as well.
You must have also missed the part where I mentioned that some people are single parents because their partners were killed whilst on duty. I luckily don't know of anyone who this has happened to. But it has happened.
Again, this applies to such a small number. And if this happens people often get compensation from their employer. It is kind of a legal requirement. Your attempt to get a situation that applies to a tiny minority to then be applicable for a huge number isn't very convincing.

I have a friend (male, btw) who is a single parent of a severely disabled child. He's a single parent because the child's mother (they were married btw when the child was born) is too ill to bring up their child. I assume you begrudge them the help they get too?
No. But again, get the minority and try and apply it to all people. I see where this is going.
You need to stop being so judgemental. You don't know peoples stories. You don't know why people are single parents. It's not always because they sleep around. Sometimes, relationships don't work, sometimes their partners are abusive, etc. Need I go on? You don't know their situations.
Again, if you don't want judgement don't live off the proceeds of others. No such thing as a free ride. Again, yes some people are deserving of support. I mentioned right at the start this. Try looking back to my first post. I said;


I clearly said that some have a tough time but others milk the system. But feel free to try and alter what I have said or simply ignore it.
I don't know of anyone who chose to be a single parent. Most people I know who are single parents were married when their children were born. Things and people change.

I can't understand why you judge the single mother; but the not the man who sleeps around and has kids by multiple women? Or is that somehow more acceptable?

Not all single mothers sleep around. Before she remarried my grandfather, my grandmother was a single mother. Her ex-husband (mum's dad) was in prison. They were married at some point. I have a friend who had 4 children when she was married. She's now divorced.

I know people who are single mothers because their childs father was killed doing their job, etc.

You really shouldn't be so quick to judge people.

Your idea; none it seems. Or even worse go for a Corbyn style no cap and allow the council estates to become the new Royal Family with the amount they will claim.
The area will still be a run down dump-You can take the girl out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl idea, but its income will be huge.

My idea (and from what I understand, Corbyn's too) is that the benefit cap shouldnt exist because it shouldn't need to exist. It arbitrarily places a cap on the amount of benefits one can receive by amount, instead of reforming the system so that they never reach that amount in the first place.

That doesn't make any sense. if you intend to keep the amount down at that level anyway, why don't you have a cap in place just in case you don't manage it?

I'm quite sure Corbyn isn't motivated by an intention to keep benefit payments down without having to rely on a cap.

Corbyn merely wants an overbearing benefit system in order to win and guarantee votes in the future. Just like any potential Labour leader.

To be honest I don't think he's sophisticated enough to have considered electoral strategy. I think he just wants everyone to have free money.

If you were talking about Blair or Miliband... or Cooper, Burnham, pretty much any competent politician on the labour side, you'd have a point.

I agree, don't judge people. But the overwhelming number of people who are single mothers are those who have slept around, had multiple kids from different partners, all have left them, and are now expecting society to pay for them being irresponsible and frankly easy.

You do judge people. You do it the next part of your paragraph.

Do you think we are stupid?

You can;t just say 'you are not judgmental', then go on a judgmental tirade. It doesn't work like that.