Why is being a feminist considered to be so bad?

1) You're using the defence 'Science isn't true'?! What does that even mean?! That people lied on the survey to fool us? I don't even know what you're getting at with that statement to be honest.
Interesting that you hold an opinion on gender politics, and that any scientific evidence prevented that runs contrary to it it discarded without consideration. That's exactly the ideological thinking that a religion uses.

2) So you're saying there's a rape culture in Britain, but not an extreme one? And any evidence at all that there is a widely held belief that sexual harassment is okay? Incidentally, I consider collating things like catcalling with far more serious issues like rape to be pretty awful. Suggesting that they are equatable is frankly degrading to people who have been through the horrendous experience of a sexual assault.

3) I absolutely have the right to believe what I want to, about what is offensive or damaging to women. At no point have I tried to force my view onto someone else, merely presented my opinion and the evidence supporting it.

4) See above.

The fact that you are quite simply ignoring any evidence presented that runs contrary to your belief means any further discussion is utterly pointless. You have faith, and whilst you're entitled to it, it makes debating the issue as futile as trying to debate someone out of their religion. Further, the suggestion that catcalling is in any way on the same level of seriousness as sexual assault and rape is abhorrent, I find it absolutely disgusting. So I shall end my part in this discussion henceforth. Have a good night.

1. Science is theory, it isn't true, especially when you look at younger generations of women.

What if the female was extremely intoxicated and the male only barely so?


If both parties were severely intoxicated?

Depends what you mean by 'elimination of gender roles'. I do not subscribe to such notions, but I also do not subscribe to the notion of a pay gap or the need for a 'gender-balance' (inevitably) at the expense of a meritocratic process.

TSR has literally been having this same argument for at least six years now and I am old and tired.

There is nothing wrong with being a feminist. You do you.

Understood, when I said STEM, it is clear that there is perhaps a gap in terms of the portrayal of these roles by women, because people do not expect women to take up these fields. Do you not believe there may be any extraneous factors here, I mean, by omission, in the sense that we weren't so actively encouraged to even get an education a few centuries ago. With regard to this, do you think there's a chance that by conditioning interests into people, they just wont diverge from that path, I know girls who were brought up as pink princesses, and they now wish to be mums, cooking, and have little ambition job wise. It is of course unfair to slate that lifestyle, but the environments we are brought up in, and the opportunities we are presented with are subconsciously partly gender based - take the experiments on how people treated a baby based on the perceived gender, or the lower expectation of daughters success when faced with a physical challenge.

I find it slightly disturbing that given the clear evidence in society, you would call rape culture a myth. With the common use of 'ting' to refer to women, to the porn industry - "it appeared to be giving young men “permission” to treat women as they see them being treated in porn." This alone is a cause for concern, when there are so many cases of rape in the porn industry, and the fact that there are companies dedicated to producing rape scenarios. Can you really say that there isn't a problem here, when all you have to do is look up a few 'songs' or talk to a few uni lads as they sing their anthems explicitly mentioning taking advantage of women? How many sex workers have to be raped and killed before its an issue?

My sister proves my point even more as she told me her year group had a talk about consent etc. who told these girls that if they say yes once, they can't back out, who told them that they can't be raped by a partner, who told them that backing out of unwanted sex was cowardly, 'frigid', a 'prude?

I said 'people like you' because instead of replying to my point in a civilised manner, you resorted to picking out errors in what I said.

You're question was generically addressing feminists and why they are, and very few feminists fight for the rights of women in the whole world. I'm fully in support of feminists who do do this, but in general those who identify themselves as feminists dont.

Please dont try to make me look like a bad guy, its not my problem you immediately assume that i am trying to be patronizing.

Um, hello. Hope ya don't mind commenting on your comment. I totally agree that no woman should be in the wrong or gain blame for rape. However women should take precautions especially if they happen to be in the "bad" part of a town or "nowhere". Of course people should be able to wear whatever but that doesn't mean the people surrounding them will respect them or take signs of that. Dressing "naked" makes that woman vulnerable and open to sexual assault from strangers. I think learning self defense is way more efficient instead of relying on others to respect people's fashion. Rapists do not care about their victim's feelings and that is why they're called rapists.

I don't know anyone who genuinely thinks that women who wear certain clothes deserve to get raped. Not one person.

I disagree with feminism and oppose all feminists. Instead I believe in equal rights

because it's boring

achieve something if you want to be taken seriously

What if the female was extremely intoxicated and the male only barely so?


If both parties were severely intoxicated?
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Honestly people on TSR overreact so much and hide behind their computers. I see so much harmful crap here that I never see in real life, or if I do it's a very rare occasion. People in real life are usually on board with feminism, so ignore people on here.

Also: the term feminazi is absolutely disgusting. Explain to be how the feminism movement is in anyway similar to a regime that tortured and murdered millions of innocents?

By that logic anything you think about anything is a stereotype am I supposed to speak to every single feminist and if one says something different I can not say that feminist think the way the majority do

People have different ideas about feminism and many other beliefs/movements depending on their experience with them I personally believe that being a feminist means fighting for both men and women and the goal is equality for all genders but some people feel that feminism is not like that at all, I think most people genuinely do want equality but we just have different names for it