Racial Representation in Democracy

And rather than relying on mere good faith, take a look at history. Where you already have a cosmopolitan society, racism will be a byproduct of nationalism.

You're simply assuming that current nationalistic parties are racist because of historical factors. By that logic, we should not trust Germans or Austrians because of their history.

I guess that's why there are so many black swimmers and white sprinters.

you're comparing politics and opinions to physical fitness? oh brother...seriously.

their mental natures. I was referring to their bloody mental natures. why would I, in terms of politics, be saying that all races are *physically* equal? -_-

That's not how it works.

Racism also won't end if you ignore it. You need to talk about it first to start doing something about it

I would argue the contrary, racism won't end if you keep perpetuating some unhealthy obsession with it.

I would argue the contrary, racism won't end if you keep perpetuating some unhealthy obsession with it.

I was wondering, and I think it's a good idea, that there is a democratic representative for each ethnic group in a population for the sole purpose of raising issues that affect that ethinicity. Eg in America there is a situation where black people keep being shot. If there was an ethnic representative then he could continually raise this issue to the government. There is a problem that some voices won't be heard and that there will be serious injustices happening systematically because of tensions between ethnic groups. If there is an ethnic representative then at least these people can have their voice heard so that they don't have to resort to violence.

Could you give an example of an unhealthy obsession? I think it is a good idea to have some level of racial representation in democracy, as it would be easy to feel disenfranchised when no one represents you. However, there are limits to representation- eg> I don't think women should vote for Clinton because she is a woman, Bernie Sanders is more likely to create the equal social conditions for women through his policies.

Again, just stating something does not make it fact.

Nationalism is a system. A set of ideals with effects and outcomes. A state is territory under a single government. There are no inherent values and traditions in being a state in and of itself. Your comparison is invalid.

Germany did not commit those acts becuase they were a state of Germany but because they were a nationalist state at them time. You tried tho.

You haven't addressed my earlier point, Truths. Please re-read them and come back with a relevant reply.

Lol nice try.
"You're simply assuming that current nationalistic parties are racist because of historical factors."

You didn't get my point right to begin with. I said nationalism breeds racism, xenophobia and intolerance in a cosmopolitan society.

The parties you've listed may not "incite racism" now, but that's because they have no power. And virtually no representation in parliament. Maybe if you have a homogenous society a nationalist party could work, but they never work in diverse societies like our own.

So what are you proposing? We introduce ethnic diversity quotas within the government?

I have never been convinced by quotas fulfilling their intended purpose. I think the situation is bigger than this. You have social groups keeping themselves to themselves out of fear and familiarity and perpetuating that closeness within their communities. If everyone integrated more successfully, diversity would naturally diffuse into the government, or so that is my opinion. Education is key, educate everyone so that ignorance and fear of the unknown are destroyed. A good education system, one that isn't made to cater for and perpetuate elitism.

I can only dream.

I'm not talking about quotas. I'm talking about representatives for each ethnic group who can raise issues specific for that ethnic group with the main purpose of preventing systematic injustices. If there are no injustices happening then they can all go on holiday or something, but when there are, they need to come and raise the issue.

He claimed races are "equal in their natures". They aren't, and they aren't even equal in their rights by the way, at least under the current system.

You clearly have no knowledge of science so shouldn't mention nature.

Who defines who gets a rep and who doesnt? Do slavs get one? Non british europeans? North and south indians? What about celts?

Part of the mistake you made was not realizing that the differences are more confined that racial. Notice how black sprinters come from particular parts of africs?