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England for the English?
Do you think that England should be for the English or be opened up to the world and everyone/anyone who wants to be allowed to live here?
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Here we go again
So black and white...
Those which benefit society should be allowed to live here, regardless of place of origin.
Those which benefit society should be allowed to live here, regardless of place of origin.
Original post by karl pilkington
Do you think that England should be for the English or be opened up to the world and everyone/anyone who wants to be allowed to live here?
Definitely not. No country in the world does that anyway, and in fact many are very xenophobic.
What I do believe 100% is a government should put the interests of their national citizens above the interests of immigrants, to the extent realistically possible and advisable.
Original post by BasicMistake
So black and white...
Those which benefit society should be allowed to live here, regardless of place of origin.
Those which benefit society should be allowed to live here, regardless of place of origin.
Most immigrants are a net negative on society.
Who even are the English? Normans? Angles? Saxons? Vikings? Are the Royal Family English or German? Do Coventry and Manchester really have as much in common as say, London and Toronto?
Nationality is a nonsense.
Nationality is a nonsense.
Original post by karl pilkington
Do you think that England should be for the English or be opened up to the world and everyone/anyone who wants to be allowed to live here?
Majority of England should be for the English (90%), the rest of England should be for others.
Let everyone else have Birmingham and Runcorn.
Original post by karl pilkington
Do you think that England should be for the English or be opened up to the world and everyone/anyone who wants to be allowed to live here?
Can we not have a happy medium where we allow moderate levels of immigration with moderate vetting to keep out any bad eggs?
Most of you lot are ignorant of the positive economic effects of immigration and just dislike them because they're a different colour or speak a different language. Before you say they take British people's jobs; no they don't, read up on the lump of labour fallacy.
Debating the alt-right is just as easy as debating the left, educate them on some basic economics.
Original post by karl pilkington
Do you think that England should be for the English or be opened up to the world and everyone/anyone who wants to be allowed to live here?
You are a legend
Original post by ByronicHero
Let everyone else have Birmingham and Runcorn.
That's cruel. It would be nicer to keep them out.
Original post by karl pilkington
Do you think that England should be for the English or be opened up to the world and everyone/anyone who wants to be allowed to live here?
As long as its high skilled labour I do not mind. However as a believer in the free market I dont believe in welfare, so most of those immigrants would not even be here under a system like that. However English is Ethnicity rather than a racial thing, as long as you believe in free speech and love the flag then your English. To answer, yes Britain for the Brits.
Original post by jape
That's cruel. It would be nicer to keep them out.
Indeed!
Original post by ByronicHero
Let everyone else have Birmingham and Runcorn.
... and Bradford, Upton Park (London), Bury Park (Luton), Manor Park (London), Tower Hamlets (London).
That's not true at all, Immigrants are net contributors in the U.K.
Original post by JavaScriptMaster
Here we go again
Here we go, here we go, here we go.
Original post by PolPot
As long as its high skilled labour I do not mind. However as a believer in the free market I dont believe in welfare, so most of those immigrants would not even be here under a system like that. However English is Ethnicity rather than a racial thing, as long as you believe in free speech and love the flag then your English. To answer, yes Britain for the Brits.
Most immigrants are here because there are better educational and job opportunities, in fact immigration has a positive net impact on the economy in the UK. New laws passed also mean immigrants can't collect welfare for the first three years of living here.
Original post by Nottie
It did work out perfectly last time some Austrian dude tried this approach with Germany, didnt it?
Although OP is an idiot, you can't compare the rise of Hitler to anti immigration, populist parties today.
Hitler didn't even seriously mention deportation of the Jews until he has abolished democracy, many Germans did not expect the holocaust as most hadn't read Mein Kampf.
Yes, he did blame the Jews for the treaty of Versailles, but that was more anti socialist than anti Semitic, he simply pointed out the coincidence that many of the socialists in the Weimar government happened to be Jewish.
Yes, his deep hatred of the Jews was apparent in reading Mein Kampf, but he didn't start persecuting them properly until democracy was abolished and the people had no say anymore.
To blame the rise of Hitler on "racists German voters" is to be very ignorant of the underlying economic, social and territorial concerns of many Germans in the interwar period that was imposed on them by the Treaty of Versailles.
Lloyd George, Woodrow Wilson and Georges Clemenceau were the three biggest contributors. in the rise of Hitler.
Original post by KatieOliver99
Most immigrants are here because there are better educational and job opportunities, in fact immigration has a positive net impact on the economy in the UK. New laws passed also mean immigrants can't collect welfare for the first three years of living here.
Which is great if you're an employer looking for someone to work in slave conditions, migrants displace locals in poor industry as the locals are less likely to put up with awful working conditions.
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