Is science like a religious belief?

Belief is believing something you cannot touch nor see, science can be touched and seen, end of thread

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Plantagenet Crown

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Stopped reading at "the moon landing was faked". Troll.

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Zasty

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If science is matter then religion is dark matter. They're opposites.

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Stiff Little Fingers

Yeah, the moon landing wasn't faked.

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proffderiomax

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Do you need help in that topic?

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OP

Original post by Oneiropólos

Belief is believing something you cannot touch nor see, science can be touched and seen, end of thread

Take the example of moon landing. Hundreds of scientists were involved in faking it. Do you think you would still say it can be touched and seen?

Or take the example of vaccines. They had to stop mandatory vaccines in the UK after the people revolted as so many people died. Even today, there are neurotoxins like mercury in it, causing the exponential increase in autism. And false propaganda, again by scientists, that it was vaccines that caused decrease in diseases like small pox and typhoid, while it was clearly just better hygiene.

Then there is the example of global warming. Literally hundreds of corrupt scientists spread that hoax, to benefit the carbon credit system

How do you differentiate blind belief in science, from blind belief in religion?

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Alexty28

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I know it sounds dumb becuase science is backed up by facts, but it really depends on peoples perceptions. If you view science as a belief you can.

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Stiff Little Fingers

Original post by Parthaab

Or take the example of vaccines. They had to stop mandatory vaccines in the UK after the people revolted as so many people died. Even today, there are neurotoxins like mercury in it, causing the exponential increase in autism. And false propaganda, again by scientists, that it was vaccines that caused decrease in diseases like small pox and typhoid, while it was clearly just better hygiene.

How do you manage to be this unbelievably wrong? Vaccines cause adults, not autism. The claim that they cause autism was research fraud by a disgraced hack and has no validity whatsoever, and vaccinations have eliminated diseases even in countries with poor sanitation.

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Tootles

Original post by Oneiropólos

Belief is believing something you cannot touch nor see, science can be touched and seen, end of thread

You can't perceive a gravity wave or an atom, or quantum effects. They can be observed indirectly, yes, but someone playing devil's advocate would be well-justified in pointing out that those observances could well be mere coincidence.

Science isn't truth, it's our best understanding at any given moment. When David Edward Hughes first demonstrated electromagnetic waves to the Royal Society, they dismissed it as induction - but ten years later, Heinrich Hertz demonstrated it in a way that allowed it to be recognized by everyone for what it was.

Speaking of eletromagnetic waves, we can't see them, even if we can perceive their effects (radios, WiFi, television, &c). The only proof other than the effects we see in hardware is mathematical - and we have to have faith in that. The mathematics could be wrong and the waves could just me magic, for all we know.

Similarly, those of us - like me - who believe in a god must accept that there is a likelihood that we are wrong. That's the point in faith, and ulttimately it's the same kind of faith.

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proffderiomax

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it very simple....you just need to tgake time and concentrate

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Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

Yeah, the moon landing wasn't faked.

LMAO

Funny looking actors in strange suits pretending that they were on the moon! The surface temp of the moon is 100 degrees plus. In vacuum, they would be roasted alive, if the suit was not cooled by a mobile battery. In those days, do you think such technology was available? It is not available even today!

And then you have to be a sheep to believe all that circus that they did around the moon using computers with power of a calculator. Even today, these scientists fool the sheep using CGI, to make them believe in Mars missions and BS like that.

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username3900288

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Science is a description of natural phenomena that is accurate to our observations, particular those that occur in experiments, to said phenomena. It isn't a belief or fake, it is just a description that happens to be accurate as ****. In other words, it is a theory; not an hypothesis like religion.

The only similarities that science and religion have is that both are the product of people wanting to describe the natural pheneomena they have observed. Note that observation in this context refers to the detection of something; the aquisition of information about a system or event. Religion is an ideology that is not proven to be accurate and is instead based on faith. Science is an ideology that is accurate and not based on faith.

End of discussion.

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Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

How do you manage to be this unbelievably wrong? Vaccines cause adults, not autism. The claim that they cause autism was research fraud by a disgraced hack and has no validity whatsoever, and vaccinations have eliminated diseases even in countries with poor sanitation.

When you are fully convinced that carcinogens cannot cause cancer, that neurotoxins cannot cause nerve damage, that pesticides are beneficial for health, that nutrition and exercise are not necessary, and you are ready to ascribe the full blame on bacteria and viruses for all the diseases you encounter, you are ready to qualify as a mainstream doctor.

http://autismgazette.com/asdnews/thelibertarianrepublic-com-congressman-elect-says-hes-worried-vaccines-may-cause-autism-hes-also-a-doctor/

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/over-40-percent-of-americans-say-no-to-flu-vaccinations

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username3444162

Original post by Parthaab

Take the example of moon landing. Hundreds of scientists were involved in faking it. Do you think you would still say it can be touched and seen?

Or take the example of vaccines. They had to stop mandatory vaccines in the UK after the people revolted as so many people died. Even today, there are neurotoxins like mercury in it, causing the exponential increase in autism. And false propaganda, again by scientists, that it was vaccines that caused decrease in diseases like small pox and typhoid, while it was clearly just better hygiene.

Then there is the example of global warming. Literally hundreds of corrupt scientists spread that hoax, to benefit the carbon credit system

How do you differentiate blind belief in science, from blind belief in religion?

Ok sorry but I can't talk to someone who sounds like an anti vaxxer supporter, it's ridiculous

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Stiff Little Fingers

Original post by Parthaab

When you are fully convinced that carcinogens cannot cause cancer, that neurotoxins cannot cause nerve damage, that pesticides are beneficial for health, that nutrition and exercise are not necessary, and you are ready to ascribe the full blame on bacteria and viruses for all the diseases you encounter, you are ready to qualify as a mainstream doctor.

http://autismgazette.com/asdnews/thelibertarianrepublic-com-congressman-elect-says-hes-worried-vaccines-may-cause-autism-hes-also-a-doctor/

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/over-40-percent-of-americans-say-no-to-flu-vaccinations

Got anything that's not utter rubbish?

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