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Synthetic alcohol – would you drink it?
Apparently it’s on the way and could be here by 2022. Would you consider drinking it?
It’s safe and doesn’t affect the liver or give you hangovers.
Google David Nutt for more information
Might change the whole drinking world.
It’s safe and doesn’t affect the liver or give you hangovers.
Google David Nutt for more information
Might change the whole drinking world.
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Original post by fountain83
Apparently it’s on the way and could be here by 2022. Would you consider drinking it?
It’s safe and doesn’t affect the liver or give you hangovers.
Google David Nutt for more information
Might change the whole drinking world.
It’s safe and doesn’t affect the liver or give you hangovers.
Google David Nutt for more information
Might change the whole drinking world.
I don't see why not, the only downside is that it hasn't been rigorously tested yet.
Original post by kkboyk
I don't see why not, the only downside is that it hasn't been rigorously tested yet.
It’s been tested since about 2008 with more recent testing also taking place. Really hoping it hits the market soon.
No.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
Original post by londonmyst
No.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
Why is that? The man is very clever and is looking to improve the health of future generations.
Original post by londonmyst
No.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
What issues do you have with the Professor's methods?
At the very least the Synthetic alcohol could be there as an option along side the real stuff. A bit like how smokers have the choice to vape or take real cigarettes.
Some people have health problems but would still like to be able to drink something at a social gathering or enjoy themselves but cause less harm (or no harm) to their body.
Any one who drinks the current alcohol should be interested in this. Understandably, people who currently don’t drink at the moment probably have no interest in synthetic alcohol as well.
Some people have health problems but would still like to be able to drink something at a social gathering or enjoy themselves but cause less harm (or no harm) to their body.
Any one who drinks the current alcohol should be interested in this. Understandably, people who currently don’t drink at the moment probably have no interest in synthetic alcohol as well.
Original post by londonmyst
No.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
I'm no supporter of Professor Nutt or his ideas about alcohol and illegal drugs.
I'm skeptical of his sanity; given his near constant comments over the years about legalising cannabis and ecstasy.
Without questioning his impressive array of qualifications and his genuine commitment to those beliefs.
We already drink synthetic alcohol. A lot of cheap American beer like Budweiser contains alcohol synthesised from petrochemicals.
Alcohol is such a simple organic chemical that it doesn't make sense, biochemically speaking, to try and produce a chemical that's like it but healthier. In any case, any chemical that doesn't affect the liver or give you a hangover will also not get you drunk. It's misleading to produce a completely unrelated drug and call it ''synthetic alcohol'' or ''alcosynth''.
Alcohol is such a simple organic chemical that it doesn't make sense, biochemically speaking, to try and produce a chemical that's like it but healthier. In any case, any chemical that doesn't affect the liver or give you a hangover will also not get you drunk. It's misleading to produce a completely unrelated drug and call it ''synthetic alcohol'' or ''alcosynth''.
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Original post by londonmyst
I'm skeptical of his sanity; given his near constant comments over the years about legalising cannabis and ecstasy.
Without questioning his impressive array of qualifications and his genuine commitment to those beliefs.
Without questioning his impressive array of qualifications and his genuine commitment to those beliefs.
Both drugs have been shown to have clinical benefits and are relatively safe.
Original post by fountain83
Apparently it’s on the way and could be here by 2022. Would you consider drinking it?
It’s safe and doesn’t affect the liver or give you hangovers.
Google David Nutt for more information
Might change the whole drinking world.
It’s safe and doesn’t affect the liver or give you hangovers.
Google David Nutt for more information
Might change the whole drinking world.
Why would you need synthetic alcohol? For one thing it's going to be a faff to make - especially when you consider I can make a gallon of mead for a fiver just by throwing some honey and water in a bucket and leaving it for a couple of months.
Also hangovers aren't cuased by alcohol, they're caused by fusels, which can be removed.
Also tertiary-amyl alcohol is twenty times as intoxicating as ethanol and doesn't do **** to the liver (which has been known for decades).
Also the problems of alcohol are as much the intoxication as the after-effects. If people can get "drunk" without the negative after-effects, they're just going to do it more.
Original post by Decahedron
What issues do you have with the Professor's methods?
If you are referring to his scientific methods, none at all.
I'm not a stem graduate or neuro specialist.
However meeting Professor Nutt left me with the same impression as speaking to Piers Corbyn.
Both of them are highly educated, extensively qualified individuals with particular obsessions.
I don't much care for fundamentalists or any sort of dogma zealots.
Particularly not when they attempt to impose themselves/their theories upon me- after I have told them more than once I am neither in agreement with them or a willing audience.
Your last point is wrong because the synthetic alcohol has the effect of PLATEAUING out which means you will reach a maximum dosage after about 5 drinks e.g. This is a major difference to the real alcohol which would keep intoxicated you until you lose consciousness.
Can you tell me where you currently get alcohol that does not damage the liver? I’ve not heard of this.
thanks
Can you tell me where you currently get alcohol that does not damage the liver? I’ve not heard of this.
thanks
Original post by Tootles
Why would you need synthetic alcohol? For one thing it's going to be a fag to make - especially when you consider I can make a gallon of mead for a fiver just by throwing some honey and water in a bucket and leaving it for a couple of months.
Also hangovers aren't cuased by alcohol, they're caused by fusels, which can be removed.
Also tertiary-amyl alcohol is twenty times as intoxicating as ethanol and doesn't do **** to the liver (which has been known for decades).
Also the problems of alcohol are as much the intoxication as the after-effects. If people can get "drunk" without the negative after-effects, they're just going to do it more.
Also hangovers aren't cuased by alcohol, they're caused by fusels, which can be removed.
Also tertiary-amyl alcohol is twenty times as intoxicating as ethanol and doesn't do **** to the liver (which has been known for decades).
Also the problems of alcohol are as much the intoxication as the after-effects. If people can get "drunk" without the negative after-effects, they're just going to do it more.
item in bold is not true either.
Original post by fountain83
item in bold is not true either.
OK, Clever ****, we know hangovers are caused by dehydration, but they're exacerbated massively by fusels and methanol, both of which are produced in all brewing. Only very refined distillation techniques can remove them completely - bourbon whiskey is known to be one of the spirits that doesn't have them.
"Hangover Free Beer" has been around for a while.
https://munchies.vice.com/en_uk/article/53q3y3/i-tried-a-hangover-free-beer-that-actually-worked
https://munchies.vice.com/en_uk/article/53q3y3/i-tried-a-hangover-free-beer-that-actually-worked
Original post by Tootles
OK, Clever ****, we know hangovers are caused by dehydration, but they're exacerbated massively by fusels and methanol, both of which are produced in all brewing. Only very refined distillation techniques can remove them completely - bourbon whiskey is known to be one of the spirits that doesn't have them.
thank you.
However, this will still affect the liver and cause damage.
Original post by fountain83
thank you.
However, this will still affect the liver and cause damage.
However, this will still affect the liver and cause damage.
This is another one in which fusels and methanol don't receive all the blame they deserve. Then again, it seems only people who have active interests in brewing/distillation actually know about some of this stuff.
Original post by Tootles
This is another one in which fusels and methanol don't receive all the blame they deserve. Then again, it seems only people who have active interests in brewing/distillation actually know about some of this stuff.
Correct i don’t much about brewing. All am looking for is a form of alcohol that doesn’t cause liver damage and one that available in the bar. The synthetic stuff by Nutt sounds ideal.
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