What Is The Worst Drug In The UK?

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Heroin is the worst of all the drugs in terms of danger, dependency and straight up 'I'll-kill-you-ness' (English student struggling to find a decent word :biggrin:

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Not quite, Krokodil is far worse. Thankfully it's not something that's really a problem in the UK.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/krokodil-the-drug-that-eats-junkies-2300787.html
It's terrifying.
I'm not saying this is the worst drug ever, but I've not heard of anything which kills its users so quickly, is so addictive and is so easy to obtain.

As for the people saying alcohol, yes in total it almost certainly causes more deaths than all others put together (excluding tobacco), but compare the proportion of people who drink alcohol and remain normal functioning members of society with the proportion of people who take heroin and are normal functioning members of society. Heroin appears a lot more likely to ruin your life than alcohol.

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I honestly believe Cannabis is one of the worst. So many people do not realise the mental damage it can cause, sad really.

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Original post by RossClements

With MDMA you're gonna feel burned out if you use it that often, and it won't be very enjoyable wither if you don't space it out. Alcohol people can consume regularly and it may still be enjoyable not to mention it can be addictive so there's a higher potential for abuse right there.

What I mean is, it's sort of unfair to compare the risks of two drugs when one is used a few times a year, and the other is used a few times a week. Alcohol 3x a week would definitely cause more long term issues than MDMA once every several months, but consumed in moderation alcohol is pretty safe. MDMA that often and you'll probably end up with severe depression/serotonin syndrome or something. So it's not really a problem with alcohol itself (most people are not addicted) but the way people use it

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Spetznaaz

Original post by PinkyQT

I honestly believe Cannabis is one of the worst. So many people do not realise the mental damage it can cause, sad really.

So you think cannabis is worse than the following: Heroin, Crack Cocaine, Cocaine, Methamphetamine...?

If they answer is yes, i can assure you, you're very mistaken.

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bertstare

Also none of the drugs on that list can hold a candle to Desomorphine, the king of ****ed up

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Professor David Nutts graph is interesting:

Personally I wouldn't put alcohol quite that high but it would certainly be near the top.

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Reply 51

PinkyQT

Original post by Spetznaaz

So you think cannabis is worse than the following: Heroin, Crack Cocaine, Cocaine, Methamphetamine...?

If they answer is yes, i can assure you, you're very mistaken.

Cannabis is more popular in the UK and used by many teenagers.

Reply 52

Spetznaaz

Original post by PinkyQT

Cannabis is more popular in the UK and used by many teenagers.

Yes cannabis is the most widely used illegal drug in the world afaik, and yes people do use it too young.

However, you didn't actually answer my question..

Reply 53

Spetznaaz

Certainly not the most widely used though.

Reply 54

PinkyQT

Original post by Spetznaaz

Yes cannabis is the most widely used illegal drug in the world afaik, and yes people do use it too young.

However, you didn't actually answer my question..

Okay, I'll answer it.

When it comes to which is most widely used then yes.
But then when it comes to health no.

Reply 55

Liam_G

Original post by Logi

Professor David Nutts graph is interesting:

Personally I wouldn't put alcohol quite that high but it would certainly be near the top.

This graph seems a little ridiculous. I guess the "harm to others" section of the graph accounts for drink drivers, which is why it's so high. I would hardly trust someone to drive a car who's just injected a **** load of heroin into their body either. The harm to self section for heroin is only slightly larger than alcohol too. Really? I consumed alcohol on average 1-2 times a week during my 9 months at uni. I came back for summer, and haven't touched alcohol for the last 2 and a half months. I'm guessing that if I used heroin twice a week for nine months, I'd have been having some serious withdrawals.

Pretty misleading to go with tobacco as apposed to cigarettes, or nicotine too. As cigarettes are much more harmful than tobacco, the second hand smoke causes a lot more damage to others, and much more people use cigarettes rather than straight tobacco. Surprised by the harm to others section for cannabis, too. Considering that I heard the second hand smoke from it is 4 times more carcinogenic than cigarette smoke.

But seriously. Alcohol scoring 20 points higher than Heroin. What the hell. If you're accounting for harm to others, surely you should consider drug smuggling, the fact that heroin isn't taxed, and links between Class A illegal drugs and trafficking (?)

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pgreg1

Original post by Nvmthename

Its just an opinion after meeting people that did acid and are now in nursing homes because theyve developed schizophrenia or accelerated any mental issue they had.

Theres plenty of cases where people have been that mentally effected by acid that theyre in a constant trip.

Id rather die than be scared of my own thoughts tbh.

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And yet there are plenty (much more, infact) previous alcoholics sat in nursing homes staring out of the window all day who have had their memories completely destroyed by excessive consumption.

Reply 57

Spetznaaz

Original post by Liam_G

Pretty misleading to go with tobacco as apposed to cigarettes, or nicotine too. As cigarettes are much more harmful than tobacco, the second hand smoke causes a lot more damage to others, and much more people use cigarettes rather than straight tobacco. Surprised by the harm to others section for cannabis, too. Considering that I heard the second hand smoke from it is 4 times more carcinogenic than cigarette smoke.

But seriously. Alcohol scoring 20 points higher than Heroin. What the hell. If you're accounting for harm to others, surely you should consider drug smuggling, the fact that heroin isn't taxed, and links between Class A illegal drugs and trafficking (?)

I'm pretty sure studies have shown rolling tobacco to be just as harmful as straights.

Cannabis smoke is certainly not "4 times more carcinogenic than cigarette smoke". It is less harmful than tobacco smoke, but still harmful.

David Nutt is a pretty smart guy. I've been to some of his lectures, and even served him a few times at work where we had a good chat about his current work. I assure you he knows what he is talking about. Maybe something to do with his PHD in psychopharmacology.

Reply 58

Steezy

Am I right in thinking meth is basically speed that you smoke? Cos I remember doing speed when I was like 16... That's ****ed up.

Reply 59

doobucks

Between alcohol and heroin. Since we're talking UK it's got to be alcohol, we need to see stats of how many people take it and how many people have complications from such drug. Alcohol would undoubtably cause the most problems as it's socially acceptable compared to other drugs.

I don't think cocaine is that bad, although this is purely anecdotes from people I know who've taken it.
So anyway, worst drug=heroin, PCP deserves a mention too and most used is clearly alcohol.