Should Halal and Kosher meat be illegal in the UK?

The argument against the slaughter rituals is usually one regarding animal rights as the animals are not stunned, leaving them subject to intense pain.

Any other comments on the subject are very welcome.

I thought the point of Halal was to cause the animal the least pain before they die... have I been misinformed?

The argument against the slaughter rituals is usually one regarding animal rights as the animals are not stunned, leaving them subject to intense pain.

Any other comments on the subject are very welcome.

It was the most humane way at the time of writing, but modern methods are better now as they cause instant unconsciousness

It is causing unnecessary harm to animals.

As i have stated before if a "Sect" wanted to insert its penis into an animals bottom before death we would on humane grounds ban it. I don't see how this is any different? why not kill an animal in a more humane way.

Which is what? Allowing it to die "naturally"?

Which is causing the minimum amount of harm. If a murderer was to kill you, Would you rather have your throat half cut and you lye there in your own blood for hours or would you rather have a quick death causing you less harm?!

Hmm you don't have to be Einstein to know the answer to that. But you do need years of brainwashing to believe otherwise.

I wouldn't care if I "lye [sic] there in my own blood for hours" because I would have been dead for "hours".



Would you rather be hung upside down, placed inside an electric water bath, have varying amounts of "painful" electricity sent up your ass which may or may not be enough to stun you and then wrenched back up and sent down the line to the mechanised guillotine hoping that the stun lasts long enough for you to experience a little less pain?

LOL the animal (you) is not always dead with the halal method right away. Whereas other humane methods offer a much quicker/instant death.

How brainwashed are you really?

Could you tell me how long it takes for a chicken to die using the Dhabihah/Shechita method and how long it takes a chicken to die using the stunning method?



I responded to your question now be a good chap and answer mine:

"Would you rather be hung upside down, placed inside an electric water bath, have varying amounts of "painful" electricity sent up your ass which may or may not be enough to stun you and then wrenched back up and sent down the line to the mechanised guillotine hoping that the stun lasts long enough for you to experience a little less pain?"

It is scientifically proven the current methods we use in the UK are more humane and cause less pain to the animal than the halal method. I'd rather not get into details and post videos of how barbaric halal meat is made.

Of course i do agree some other methods similar to the halal method are also barbaric. Where modern tools are not available.

I'm not asking you to "post videos". If I wanted you to do that, I would have asked you to verify if the videos depicted Dhabihah/Shechita according to the instructions contained within their holy books.

All I'm asking for is the time it takes a stunned chicken to die and an unstunned chicken to die...



That is the current method, are you seriously calling the "modern methods" barbaric?

If not, then could you tell us how you would stun a chicken?