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Why abortion should be illegal

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    Does anyone get confused that socialism meant to be for the people yet they kill/want their own way and cover it up by " equality "

    PS. Under 5 weeks I wouldn't say thats harmful. *read before replying...*
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    what people do with their body is none of my concern tbh, the fetus is still part of their body. Raped or not, i think abortion is something the women would have spent tiring hours deciding upon, so no it's not an easy decision and they shouldn't have to face what other self righteous people think about it either
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    It shouldn't be. I think it's ridiculous if the state tries to control what a woman does with her body. So long as we have a reasonable age of foetus limit after which abortion can no longer be carried out because the foetus could feel it/very maturely developed by then etc then I think it's fine and we shouldn't bring in the 'well you're killing a human' debate
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    I don't agree with abortion, but making it illegal would be bad. It's her body. :dontknow:
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    The ability to have an abortion literally saves women's lives - whether because of the physical/emotional trauma pregnancy would cause, the potentional for abuse they could face at the hands of their parents or partner if they were against the pregnancy, or simply because of the dangers of backstreet abortions.
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    Abortion should be encouraged if anything
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Does anyone get confused that socialism meant to be for the people yet they kill/want their own way and cover it up by " equality "
    Apparently abortion is socialism now.
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    I don't think we should put a bunch of cells that will eventually become a human over an actual living breathing human, with a life, goals and dreams that objects to having something unwanted growing inside her. It's absolutely absurd. I have absolutely no problem with early term abortion (you're destroying a bunch of cells). It's when it gets to later on and the baby is pretty much fully developed and then the mother just changes her mind. (some countries still do it) Like ***** please. you had months to know what you wanted!
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    (Original post by Make39kButNoHoes)
    Abortion should be encouraged if anything
    Haha seeing some of the people on the streets maybe lmao!
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    In my opinion it should only be legal if the woman was raped or if her life is at danger.
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    Nope disagree. Womans body and her choice, because she and the family have to raise it and be responsible for its lifetime.
    Making it illegal would just bring more children into the world that arent wanted or increase backstreet abortions or force people to have them in extreme circumsatnces such as the child having serious medical conditions or being the result of things like rape.

    I cant see that its got anything to do with being socialist.

    Obviously the state draws the line at so many weeks for where it does become illegal. Im 100% for a womans right to choose before that date.
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    Incorrect.

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    It's clear murder and killing of a human....
    and as God said in Quran...killing one innocent is like killing whole humanity...
    and also Allah told that Allah gives provisions so one should not kill children with fear of hunger because Allah makes way out......
    Arabs used to bury little girls alive because they considered them useless and a burden and God forbade them to do...and the Prophet (PBUH) called them a mercy and gave glad tidings to the parents who take care and teach 2 daughters
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    Not only were the images in the video misleading (it made the fetus at 12 weeks looked much bigger than it would be in reality), but fetuses couldn't feel pain until 23-24 weeks, so the "ripping it apart" thing was no different from cutting your hair or your nails.

    70% of all fertilized eggs failed to be carried to full-term, and fetuses are not given any right to begin with, so it's ridiculous to claim that it's a human and cannot be killed. At the very least you will need to support counting age from conception, giving fetuses free money and housing, issuing passports to fetuses, and the possibility to try a fetus.
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    Abortion should be completely illegal whether women is raped or not....
    because what is sin of that coming child???he did nothing wrong???
    Islam doesn't punish a pregnant women who commits adultery or a wrong thing until she gives birth....because kids are innocent and free from sin..........
    They are all Muslims
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    It's better not to have any relation than abortion..........
    why don't you see yourself at the place of the innocent kid who will die????isn't it killing??does he got no soul??
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    (Original post by kakerlake)
    The ability to have an abortion literally saves women's lives - whether because of the physical/emotional trauma pregnancy would cause, the potentional for abuse they could face at the hands of their parents ir partnee if they were against the pregnancy, or simply because of the dangers of backstreet abortions.
    You forgot to mention the fact that there had been cases where the fetuses couldn't have been saved anyway and the women would die. And the women also needed to die in the end because abortion was illegal.

    (Original post by amylaraman)
    I don't think we should put a bunch of cells that will eventually become a human over an actual living breathing human, with a life, goals and dreams that objects to having something unwanted growing inside her. It's absolutely absurd. I have absolutely no problem with early term abortion (you're destroying a bunch of cells). It's when it gets to later on and the baby is pretty much fully developed and then the mother just changes her mind. (some countries still do it) Like ***** please. you had months to know what you wanted!
    Just also want to point out that those bunch of cells, 70% of the time, they get miscarried.

    (Original post by NUSTweb)
    It's clear murder and killing of a human....and as God said in Quran...killing one innocent is like killing whole humanity...and also Allah told that Allah gives provisions so one should not kill children with fear of hunger because Allah makes way out......Arabs used to bury little girls alive because they considered them useless and a burden and God forbade them to do...and the Prophet (PBUH) called them a mercy and gave glad tidings to the parents who take care and teach 2 daughters
    If a fetus is clearly a human, and killing it is murder; then:

    1. should fetuses receive their own welfare, eg money and housing, before they were born?
    2. Should a pregnant woman be charged extra on a flight because it's two instead of one human?
    3. Should fetuses be given and required to carry a passport?
    4. Should age be counted from the moment of conception?
    5. Should the fetus be arrested for violation of any law? For example, you cannot insert yourself to someone's vagina without their consent; so can a woman potentially sue her fetus for rape?
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    (Original post by NUSTweb)
    It's better not to have any relation than abortion..........
    why don't you see yourself at the place of the innocent kid who will die????isn't it killing??does he got no soul??
    No-one has soul. Souls don't exist.

    And in the case of a fetus at 12 weeks, the brain wouldn't have been developed enough for there to be consciousness of any kind.

    And if you care so much about the "soul", why do you eat? Why don't you see yourself at the place of the animal or plant who will die???? isn't it killing?? Do they have no soul??
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    It seriously disturbs me that we are still having this discussion in the 21st century. Where do we draw the line if we start forcing women into parenthood because it offends our sensibilities? How about women start forcing absentee fathers into marriage & living with the child until 18? because y'know, it's immoral and un-christian to abandon a family like that without trying to make it work, men can make a stupid selfish decision and ruin the future of that poor child, think of that child's potential to cure cancer, all gone to waste because the dad wasn't around. (and yes I am reversing a common argument anti-abortionists hold)
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    Abortion is completely immoral. Just think of the number of potential Einsteins, Churchills etc that have been murdered in the name of "right to choice".
 
 
 
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