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    After watching a recent video by CGP Grey and realizing all the issues with traffic, car accidents and delays caused by this, I started to think about the consequences of human driving. Over 1.250.000 people are killed annually due to car accidents, and millions more are maimed, injured or hospitalized. That's tens of millions lives affected every year.

    Since self-driving cars exist and are around the corner for consumer use, would you, eventually ban human driving completely? This would eliminate all the disaster and tragedy caused by it and would greatly increase our productivity, reduce traffic (especially on highways and in big cities) and give people more free time, as time spent driving can now be spent reading, resting, studying or doing whatever else you'd like.

    So, eventual ban on human driving yes/no?
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    Sure loads of people die but how about all those drive thrus
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    What about the jobs and enjoyment people get from driving cars? And how else would we control the population, and burn more oil to fill Saudi Arabia's pockets?

    We'd have to have a different job to replace that of a driver; maybe employ folk to kill 1,250,000 people at random every year, while burning petrol and diesel in the streets.
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    We are advancing towards more sophisticated self-driving AI for electric cars - look at Elon Musk - so yes, a ban on "manual" cars will eventually be required once the technology has fully matured and the cars are commonplace, i.e. a long way off from now since normal electric cars are still an eccentricity.

    We can say with some certainty that, assuming we don't find a new miracle sustainable fuel, all cars will eventually be electric, self-driven and have completely different interiors (e.g. a desk or bed inside). Perhaps in our lifetime.
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    Hmmmmmm. Self driving cars? Who are the police gonna harass then? I guess they will take their frustration out on who ever beat their fav team.
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    No thanks, modern motoring laws and regulations rely heavily on driver culpability and responsibility. Driverless cars despite the hype will and already have suffered accidents and other issues.

    In those situations, regarding insurance, compensation, etc, there would be no immediate chain of responsibility and thus drivers to take to court, etc.
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    At some point I am convinced it will happen, but it won't be for the next 30-50 years. Driverless cars are not perfect now on public roads and fail to function to any acceptable level off-road where they can't use digital maps.
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    (Original post by Studentus-anonymous)
    No thanks, modern motoring laws and regulations rely heavily on driver culpability and responsibility. Driverless cars despite the hype will and already have suffered accidents and other issues.

    In those situations, regarding insurance, compensation, etc, there would be no immediate chain of responsibility and thus drivers to take to court, etc.
    So it's better to have a hundred accidents with potential legal battles rather than one?

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    (Original post by Studentus-anonymous)
    No thanks, modern motoring laws and regulations rely heavily on driver culpability and responsibility. Driverless cars despite the hype will and already have suffered accidents and other issues.

    In those situations, regarding insurance, compensation, etc, there would be no immediate chain of responsibility and thus drivers to take to court, etc.
    Obviously the software would then be to blame. The insurance industry would have to adapt so that the collective risk of poor coding is pooled together among all users of a particular model.
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    (Original post by Withengar)
    After watching a recent video by CGP Grey and realizing all the issues with traffic, car accidents and delays caused by this, I started to think about the consequences of human driving. Over 1.250.000 people are killed annually due to car accidents, and millions more are maimed, injured or hospitalized. That's tens of millions lives affected every year.

    Since self-driving cars exist and are around the corner for consumer use, would you, eventually ban human driving completely? This would eliminate all the disaster and tragedy caused by it and would greatly increase our productivity, reduce traffic (especially on highways and in big cities) and give people more free time, as time spent driving can now be spent reading, resting, studying or doing whatever else you'd like.

    So, eventual ban on human driving yes/no?
    Good question, very difficult to answer until we find out what we've lost from banning human driving. Or gained.
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    Autonomous cars havent been around for very long and people are being killed already.
    Theyre actually designed to kill the driver as opposed to pedestrians so im good thanks.

    I love driving and would never ever get into an autonomous vehicle, never!!!!
    So if they ever get popular and work properly then no im not in favour of it.

    We should never ban human driving! Ever! Theres nothing wrong with it!

    Autonomous cars are not the way forward.

    Driving is enjoyable! If it aint broke, dont fix it!
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    (Original post by FireFreezer77)
    Autonomous cars havent been around for very long and people are being killed already.
    Theyre actually designed to kill the driver as opposed to pedestrians so im good thanks.

    I love driving and would never ever get into an autonomous vehicle, never!!!!
    So if they ever get popular and work properly then no im not in favour of it.

    We should never ban human driving! Ever! Theres nothing wrong with it!

    Autonomous cars are not the way forward.

    Driving is enjoyable! If it aint broke, dont fix it!
    Can you prove they're designed to kill the driver? The other thing to consider here is it's a lot easier to protect the driver when they don't need to be facing forwards surrounded by glass

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    Can you prove they're designed to kill the driver? The other thing to consider here is it's a lot easier to protect the driver when they don't need to be facing forwards surrounded by glass

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    Yup, ill say it in words here first.
    The car has to decided whether or not to kill the driver or pedestrians at the side of the road in an unavoidable accident. The computer will determine which is going to cause less damage, and because the streets are filled with pedestrians, its gonna choose you.

    Or you could install a roll cage, carbon fibre panels, safety bars etc...

    And they do need to be facing forwards (it is required that the driver of the vehicle keeps their hand on the steering wheel at all times just in case of an emergency where human control is necessary)
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    just remove private car ownership in towns and cities
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    (Original post by FireFreezer77)
    Yup, ill say it in words here first.
    The car has to decided whether or not to kill the driver or pedestrians at the side of the road in an unavoidable accident. The computer will determine which is going to cause less damage, and because the streets are filled with pedestrians, its gonna choose you.

    Or you could install a roll cage, carbon fibre panels, safety bars etc...

    And they do need to be facing forwards (it is required that the driver of the vehicle keeps their hand on the steering wheel at all times just in case of an emergency where human control is necessary)
    You're stuck in this bubble of "this stuff will happen tomorrow," if it's legal for a car to be on the toad with manual controls when we die I will be surprised, manual driving will be relegated to the tracks.

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    Lots of people seem to do other things when they are suppose to be driving like use their phone, drink, read, eat and mess with the hi fi. I think it would be a good idea if people did those things instead of driving badly at the same time.
 
 
 
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