Israel or Palestine?

It looks like one of the main arguments of haters of the Jewish state.

It's not an other/or issue.

Meanwhile you continue to pretend that Israel wasn't created on Palestinian land and that the Palestinians were forced out by the Jews. At least your concious is clear.....

Now we both know that's a lie.

You definitely should improve the quality of your trolling.

I love how the left-wing has managed to pit Palestinians against Indians, despite the fact that most Hindu Nationalists have no reason to give two shits about Israel.

I just wonder if many Hindu nationalists in India have ever meant a Palestinians or Israeli. Why should they care about people of different ethic group and religion who live thousands of kilometres away.

Israel is the only democracy in the middle-east and its one of the most developed and prosperous countrues in the world. Its just defending itself against terrorism as any country would.

Developed and prosperous does mean good human rights records one of most prosperous and developed was Nazi Germany were they murder over 11 million people. Or Britain were the NHS abuse and experimented on children with Down Syndrome and learning disabilities in 50s and 60s. Most developed democracy so called civilized countries have done terrible things to vulnerable people in the past and are still happening today.

I just wonder if many Hindu nationalists in India have ever meant a Palestinians or Israeli. Why should they care about people of different ethic group and religion who live thousands of kilometres away.

Hmmm, that is actually a very smart reply. I concede that I was wrong in saying that its a developed country. I was wrong in giving that as a reason for innocence. As you mentioned in your comment, lots of developed countries do in fact commit crimes and humans rights abuses and a great example of this was indeed Nazi Germany, but looloo Israel is a country that isn't archaic or corrupt or one managed by a single individual or a despot. its a country that is democratic and therefore subject to laws, where people regardless of their positions in authority are answerable for their actions. Its a country that abides by law, its own and that of the international community. It suffers a lot of terrorism at the hands of its neighbouring states and its just defending itself as any other country would. Killing children is a dispicable act but what other choice do you have when these children come at you with guns and knives and suicide vests?

I would refer you to Bibi who is currently being investigated for corruption. Not to mention he has quasi fascists in government with him and himself holds several key government positions, although the last point is somewhat more debatable.

I agree with you. There is indeed a strong case for Mr Netanyahu being a corrupt invidual who carries racist views. His trial in the court of both public opinion and the judiciary in Israel are testament to the positive nature of Israel. A country that does not allow racism, corruption and abuse of human rights perpitrated by even the prime minister of the country to go unquestioned.

Why is the last statement debateable? What do you do to a child that comes at you armed with the full intenet to kill you if he could, with a stone, a knife or a sucide vest? What can you do in such circumstance? what options do you have? Welcome them into your house and let them stab each and every single member of your family and then let them be on their way for fear of offending the conscience of the international community?

Positive? Lol.
The country passed an explicitly racist law but a couple of months ago and perpetually abuses human rights in gaza and the West Bank ( not to mention their policy of assasination and abduction) say what you want about their motives but it is a filthy lie to assert Israel is somehow a well behaved country.

My last statement, although yours is downright wrong, in ones opinion. You don’t assassinate children with snipers, period. This is not a matter of self defence, as anyone with even a modicum of political neutrality can see. Equally if the Israelis stopped shooting them and treating them as dogs they might stop trying to kill Israelis - this not being a debatable point as numerous current and former israeli officials and leaders (such as Rabin) are in record as saying.

Hmmm, that is actually a very smart reply. I concede that I was wrong in saying that its a developed country. I was wrong in giving that as a reason for innocence. As you mentioned in your comment, lots of developed countries do in fact commit crimes and humans rights abuses and a great example of this was indeed Nazi Germany, but looloo Israel is a country that isn't archaic or corrupt or one managed by a single individual or a despot. its a country that is democratic and therefore subject to laws, where people regardless of their positions in authority are answerable for their actions. Its a country that abides by law, its own and that of the international community. It suffers a lot of terrorism at the hands of its neighbouring states and its just defending itself as any other country would. Killing children is a dispicable act but what other choice do you have when these children come at you with guns and knives and suicide vests?