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One of the top porn searches is teen and men are attracted to female bodies that look pre pubescent i.e slim and lacking any hair except on the face and head. Scientifically teen pregnancies are considered high risk to both the mother and baby which evolutionary would be dangerouse to the human race. The safest pregnancies are those in women aged 24-25 when naturally a women would have full body hair and cellulite deposits.

What caused this change in men?
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commercialism is it not? it isn't just online porn, your average music video where that teenage sensation splashes around in a pool also contributes to the warping of men's standards...
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commercialism is it not? it isn't just online porn, your average music video where that teenage sensation splashes around in a pool also contributes to the warping of men's standards...
then why are men attracted to the teenager? how would his standards be warper if there was not some base level of attraction in the first place?
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Disclaimer: The following has nothing to do with what is morally right and everything to do with what might have been evolutionarily programmed into us. It is not a valid excuse for any form of sexual misbehaviour, nor is it intended as such!

In the primeval environment that shaped the ''programming'' for our sexual behaviour, there might have been an advantage to be had in mating with teenagers and younger women, even if the ensuing pregnancy was riskier, since it would be less likely at that point that they had mated with anyone else. A man would be more likely to know for certain that the child was his and that he wasn't investing time and energy in someone else's genetic legacy. If another guy then becomes that woman's long-term partner, they might even raise your kid by mistake. This might also explain the fixation seen in several cultures with marrying or having sex with virgins.

Your point that teenage pregnancies are more dangerous, is valid, and evolution would probably try to strike a balance between the above lines of reasoning and creating a safe pregnancy. If porn search data suggest men appear to be most attracted to 16 to 17-year-olds, maybe that is the point of balance - the most evolutionarily favourable age to be attracted to, on average.

Repeated disclaimer: Having sex with 16 to 17-year-olds is a terrible thing to do in nearly all circumstances, and I am not condoning it! The only point I make here is that it could possibly have once been evolutionarily favourable.
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The safest pregnancies are those in women aged 24-25 when naturally a women would have full body hair and cellulite deposits.

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That is not true, what's your source for this?
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What you're asking falls between biology and sociology. As someone mentioned, biologically speaking we prefer younger partners as they are most likely to be virgins and only carry on our bloodline and not another's. Ensuring that our genetics survive.

Sociologically speaking, Male and Female beauty standards have changed. Look at Roger Moore in James Bond, he was once considered the pinnacle of male looks. Now, men are hairless and muscular, yet still hyper masculine. Think of it more of social evolution.

You are reading to far into the sexual logic and not looking at the root causes at a basic social and biological level.

When you hear hoofbeats assume horses, not zebras.
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as far as evolution is concerned the phrase "every hole is a goal" sums up male sexual behavior. in the jungle when life expectancy was 24 there was no point waiting for Mrs Caveman to reach her mid-twenties before cementing the relationship.
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Disclaimer: The following has nothing to do with what is morally right and everything to do with what might have been evolutionarily programmed into us. It is not a valid excuse for any form of sexual misbehaviour, nor is it intended as such!

In the primeval environment that shaped the ''programming'' for our sexual behaviour, there might have been an advantage to be had in mating with teenagers and younger women, even if the ensuing pregnancy was riskier, since it would be less likely at that point that they had mated with anyone else. A man would be more likely to know for certain that the child was his and that he wasn't investing time and energy in someone else's genetic legacy. If another guy then becomes that woman's long-term partner, they might even raise your kid by mistake. This might also explain the fixation seen in several cultures with marrying or having sex with virgins.

Your point that teenage pregnancies are more dangerous, is valid, and evolution would probably try to strike a balance between the above lines of reasoning and creating a safe pregnancy. If porn search data suggest men appear to be most attracted to 16 to 17-year-olds, maybe that is the point of balance - the most evolutionarily favourable age to be attracted to, on average.

Repeated disclaimer: Having sex with 16 to 17-year-olds is a terrible thing to do in nearly all circumstances, and I am not condoning it! The only point I make here is that it could possibly have once been evolutionarily favourable.
in our primate cousins such as chimps and bonobos everything you just said is irrelivant as the females will mate with many males so everything you just said is more than likely untrue and based more in religous beliefes I feel rather than evolutionary/ biology
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in our primate cousins such as chimps and bonobos everything you just said is irrelivant as the females will mate with many males so everything you just said is more than likely untrue and based more in religous beliefes I feel rather than evolutionary/ biology
What. Are you looking for an argument or serious answer, Primates have basic animal inhibitions, humans are far more complex. As I said, think horses not zebras. You are overanalyzing.
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What caused this change in men?
How do you know it's a change?
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That is not true, what's your source for this?
sorry i meant 24 -35
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ility-children
https://health.howstuffworks.com/pre...0s-and-40s.htm
and other multiple sources. and the fact that many women wont maturing until their early 20s.
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What you're asking falls between biology and sociology. As someone mentioned, biologically speaking we prefer younger partners as they are most likely to be virgins and only carry on our bloodline and not another's. Ensuring that our genetics survive.

Sociologically speaking, Male and Female beauty standards have changed. Look at Roger Moore in James Bond, he was once considered the pinnacle of male looks. Now, men are hairless and muscular, yet still hyper masculine. Think of it more of social evolution.

You are reading to far into the sexual logic and not looking at the root causes at a basic social and biological level.

When you hear hoofbeats assume horses, not zebras.
there is no conenpt of virginity in nauture it is human constructed and I have already explained why this theory is not applicable. Also if we bring sociology into it why do men want to carry on their bloodline? In todays society the vast majoirty of men have nothing to pass on beside maybe a house and a small amout of cash.
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sorry i meant 24 -35
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ility-children
https://health.howstuffworks.com/pre...0s-and-40s.htm
and other multiple sources. and the fact that many women wont maturing until their early 20s.
Looks like you didn't read your own article. After 23 fertility starts decreasing.
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Looks like you didn't read your own article. After 23 fertility starts decreasing.
literally no where does it even say that but go off i guess
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literally no where does it even say that but go off i guess


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as great as your powerpoint slide chart is medically fertility drop is low and not considered relevant until after 30
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there is no conenpt of virginity in nauture it is human constructed and I have already explained why this theory is not applicable. Also if we bring sociology into it why do men want to carry on their bloodline? In todays society the vast majoirty of men have nothing to pass on beside maybe a house and a small amout of cash.
Men want to carry on their bloodline not necessarily for any sociological reason, but because past men who cared about perpetuating their bloodline tended to have more kids, who also carried the genes for wanting to carry on their bloodline, increasing the prevalence of those genes. Very basic evolutionary biology.
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as great as your powerpoint slide chart is medically fertility drop is low and not considered relevant until after 30
yeah it only surprisingly matters after an arbritarily chosen age of 30 lmao. fertility drops around 25% between 24 and 30.
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yeah it only surprisingly matters after an arbritarily chosen age of 30 lmao. fertility drops around 25% between 24 and 30.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK327786/#ch5.s2
"In the general population (which covers all ages and includes people with fertility problems), it is estimated that 84% of women would conceive within 1 year of regular unprotected sexual intercourse."
"using a modelling approach in a population with normal fertility who chose to delay child-bearing, reported that after 2 years of trying, women who were age 35 years had a 87% chance of conceiving and 67% of those who were age 38 years became pregnant. That study also reported that the decline with age in rates of conception is seen mostly after age 30 years and is more marked after age 35 years."
"With regular intercourse, commonly meaning intercourse two or three times per week, at least 94% and 77% of fertile women aged 35 years and 38 years respectively conceive after three years of trying"
Women will more than likely have no difficulty getting pregnant upto the age of 35 but good luck with your year 6 powerpoint boo x
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK327786/#ch5.s2
"In the general population (which covers all ages and includes people with fertility problems), it is estimated that 84% of women would conceive within 1 year of regular unprotected sexual intercourse."
"using a modelling approach in a population with normal fertility who chose to delay child-bearing, reported that after 2 years of trying, women who were age 35 years had a 87% chance of conceiving and 67% of those who were age 38 years became pregnant. That study also reported that the decline with age in rates of conception is seen mostly after age 30 years and is more marked after age 35 years."
"With regular intercourse, commonly meaning intercourse two or three times per week, at least 94% and 77% of fertile women aged 35 years and 38 years respectively conceive after three years of trying"
Women will more than likely have no difficulty getting pregnant upto the age of 35 but good luck with your year 6 powerpoint boo x
You clearly have no biology GCSE if you can't understand basic science.
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