What do you think should be done about disruptive students in lessons?

Opinions are subjective, you can't prove it to be 100% right.

I don't know what the limit should be exactly, but definitely more in my opinion. But hey, let's not go round in circles.

Schools are reluctant to remove children from classrooms. Giving them help won't solve the problem, rather excluding them from the classroom does. It is currently hard to exclude a pupil hard out of the classroom - but I believe measures should be taken so it is easier for teachers to exclude disruptive brats outside the classroom.

http://www.dag.gb.com/documents/ConservativeEducationPriorities.pdf

My opinion - backed up.

>3 = too many chances. It's called persistent behaviour. If you were a teacher, I know 100% the students would taken advantage out of your leniency.

Or they could resent it. E.g. not everyone who attends a top private school is "passionate about learning". Likewise you could be a **** school yet still want to learn.

You've gone back a step, we already discussed that.
That's someone else sharing your opinion... Tories. That doesn't prove your opinion to be right, because I could find something similar with someone else who shares MY opinion, and we could go on forever.

I wouldn't be a lenient teacher. I would, as I've been discussing, send any child disrupting out of the classroom. It is then up to the appropriate people to sort them out in the appropriate way.

Yes, but that would be due to some other environmental factor; such as uninterested parents with money (or vice versa). The point is you can’t blame children for not wanting to learn, it’s their upbringing. So we should be addressing the cause of this and giving people alternate options. Not just disregarding them as ‘troublemakers’ and expelling from help of any kind.

You are contradicting yourself in many ways:

"Any child who disrupts would be out of the classroom" compared with "3 chances are not enough".

Wth?

This just shows that you haven't read my points at all.
Yes, you send them out of the classroom... then someone else deals with them, both in a diciplinary way, and in a way that helps them change if necessary. After this they will be allowed back in to behave. If they begin to misbehave again, they will be sent out again.
This causes next to no disruption of the other children's education.

They refuse to get out of the classroom? Disruption ensues.

This doesn't happen often, and threatening them with something they will hate usually gets them to move fast. It's quite easy.

You do not even know the reality of the British education system.

Your ignorance sickens me.

If they are harming other people's education in the process - expel them. We shouldn't tolerate those brats.

Nothing should be done! You have to learn to deal with people, to not expect everything to be perfect and sterile.



What I'm saying is, nothing further should be done. People who really do have detrimental impact on students education are punished. You'll just have to learn to deal with those who are merely annoying because they chat and may be inclined to pissing about.

Expulsion - no need to educate people who don't want to be, its a waste of time and is detrimental to others learning

Yes I am. Education is about yourself. You are given an education; use it. Why the **** should society respect them if they don't respect society?

You can hardly send half a class outside.

Train teachers to deal with them or toughen up disciplinary procedures which aim to rehabilitate those pupils. That's the most an education establishment can do.

A change in their home environment is the only real thing that can change the conduct of these disruptive pupils. But that will cost money. And there are a range of factors which may cause children to be disruptive (some which seem to be overlooked), so really you can't truly ever stop them.
The idea that those pupils should be chucked out, no questions asked, just represents the elitist value system by those who propone that idea.

So if you can't eliminate disruptive pupils, more opportunities should be given to the dedicated pupils such as the availability of homework clubs.


Just permanently excluding disruptive pupils will only generate controversy, especially if the majority of those pupils happen to come from the lower socio-economic groups; the elitist thinking that we should chuck out the 'weak' - disruptive - pupils whom hold back progress would doubtlessly generate that controversy.


So I'd side with more opportunities for brighter children, especially since tougher school disciplinary systems will hardly do anything for schools or colleges in 'bad areas'.

My future should be hindered by some inbred jackass who can't sit still because of incompetent parents who should have been made sterile?
How the **** is that going to help anyone ?

With that wet liberal attitude, people are just going to **** you over in life.