Give up my seat?! NOOO! :(

I literally get lairy when people in their 60s who are perfectly able to stand start giving you **** for not giving you their seat - maybe they are old, but I've just paid 2.70 one way for a five mile journey when their ticket is absolutely free! Why does grey hair entitle them to my seat in addition to a free journey (which I absolutely don't begrudge them)?

So today I was on the bus and it was unbelievably packed. Luckily I managed to snag a seat. I look up and there is an elderly lady standing nearby and just by her side is an equally (if not more) elderly man. What to do? Now I am seriously ill today, I'm in bed as we speak. I felt like I was going to faint on that bus! The lady next to me got up and offerred her chair to one of them and looked at me expectantly. I just smiled and put my headphones in. She tsk'd and the elderly man left standing shook his head at me and muttered something or other (probably about "youth of today") making me feel very ashamed . The bus ride was quite long and there was an unusually high number of elderly people. I got a lot of dissapproving looks. I think at some point I said sorry I'm ill but alas to no avail. Nobody cared.

I wasn't sitting in the assigned "give your seat up" zone! just because I'm young I'm expected to be in top form health wise 24/7?! Why can't a young person be one of the "less able to stand"??? Don't get me wrong, I do give my seat up to the elderly/pregnant etc but not when I'm ILL shheeshh!

Do you give your seat up? Or do you believe you should't have to? have you ever received abuse for not doing so even though you couldn't

EDIT: I don't understand why I'm getting negged; I spent the day in hospital (mostly in the waiting room but still!)and I actually was genuinely ill. I'm just pointing out that people on buses shouldn't "judge a book by it's cover" as it were...

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What always gets me is when they stare at you tring to telepathically communicate that they want your seat. If they are polite enough to ask then I am polite enough to give up my seat. I'ts like a beggar staring you down expecting you to give him money without asking. Another reason for my rule is that I swear to go everytime I offer to give up my seat they refuse making me look awkward. I get up saying here you take it and then they go no thanks and I'm left to awkwardly sit back down on a packed bus.

And that why i think that developing medical science to the point where people are living way past there worth is wrong.

Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion. I have a laptop which means I don't need to stand to use it If I needed an ambulance, I wouldn't have taken th bus. I'm not dying, I just have difficulty standing without feeling very faint and I said I had to go home somehow! but you will have your opinion no matter what I say and I guess I will have mine no matter you say so goodnight to you

Yeah I ****ing hate when they don't take my sit and feel all awkward and ****. They stare at you because they are trying to appeals to your morals. Most people have parents that taught them to get up for the elderly. I don't see nothing wrong with beggars expecting you to give them money, you aren't in a much more fortunate position then them. Imagine your a begger, you're already begging and you speak up yet get rejected. How would you feel? ****ing worse than that awkward feeling you felt that's for sure.

Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do - Voltaire

They need the sit more than you with a few exceptions, you'll most likely be a lot more healthier than them and more able to tolerate standing more than them. Is it really ****ing hard to give up a seat? Are you that lazy, that inconsiderate, that spoiled that you aren't willing to give up a seat? It's an act of kindness. Be kind to everyone and anyone that you can. Can't believe you can do that without feeling guilty, I tried that once but got up about 20 seconds after 'cause of the guilt.

If you're well enough to walk from the bus stop to the hospital, then you're well enough to stand on the bus. This is a lame excuse, sorry.

Erm, because it would be weird?

I wanted to see if others have been through the same and to understand why people are so quick to assume that because you're young you never need to sit down!

And that why i think that developing medical science to the point where people are living way past there worth is wrong.

If you do then the old peole are like "ahh im gonna refuse cos youre basically calling me an invalid OAP by giving me your seat."

Same argument applies to the coffin dodger, no?

How to you evaluate precisely the moment in their lives when they are "living way past their worth"? Who would judge that? And what would you do at that point? Just metaphorically pull the plug? And how would you explain that to their families and friends?

I'm not sure you've thought this through properly...

yep damned if you do damned if you dont. If you do then the old peole are like "ahh im gonna refuse cos youre basically calling me an invalid OAP by giving me your seat." and if you don't all the (hypocritical) young people on the bus go "ohh look at that selfish person"

Same argument applies to the coffin dodger, no?

A deteriorating body normally, and i say normally but is not always the case, means that its time to start thinking of the end. If your body is unable to survive on its own and needs constant medical treatment then maybe you have lived past your time.

This does not apply, in my opinion, to those who suffer from diseases such as cancer.

I wouldn't personally just pull the plug because like everything you would have to be slowly accustomed to it. Nothing would need to be explain to there family, as they have died from a natural process which in the end everyone will have to deal with.