Would you be offended if I refused to eat Halal?

I'm all for humane animal slaughter so I'd avoid eating anything I have evidence that suggests it has been killed cruely.

but can you understand before stun guns, in the west, animals were shot in the head? Ive seen videos of it. BBC. don't worry, im western myself, black caribbean so im not 'anti-western' or anything. compared to hundreds of years beforehand, halal meat was more humane than a gunshot to the face. So why fuss now stun guns have come about. This is why I believe people just want to jump on an Islamophobic media frenzy against anything Islamic. I've experienced it with my own family so I can talk.

anyone who's muslim, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I see it:

The usual method for slaughtering non-halal meat is to stun the animal, and then slit it's throat. The stunning beforehand means it feels virtually no pain.

Halal meat skips the stunning method, because a prayer has to be said whilst the animal is being slaughtered, and it has to be able to hear the prayer (note: hear, not understand )

Therefore I, as a non-muslim will never knowingly eat Halal meat. When I eat at some of my Muslim friends places, I eat veggie, and the same when they come over to my place, I'll cook veggie for them.

Personally I feel that the Halal method of slaughtering the animal inflicts needless suffering, and so I don't knowingly eat it. I don't have a problem with non-Halal meat as the animal feels almost no pain, and I can justify the little pain it does feel (from the stunning) as necessary to spare it much more horrific pain from the actual slaughter.

So no, I don't feel OP is being petty, it's a genuine issue. I wouldn't phrase it quite like OP did (saying he doesn't like their God, etc), however, it's purely a moral/ethical decision.

I am not a muslim but I would leave. I woul not break bread with someone who approved of such barbarism.

Does it being halal really matter? How do you react to other foods that have Halal or Kosher on the labels? If you're not religious then it really shouldn't matter and you do have the ability to eat it. I've eaten Kosher and Halal foods and I'm not religious.
If anything, Halal and Kosher are some of the best ways to kill an animal for meat, they don't feel the pain because they're instantly dead (none of us know this for certain) Whereas is you stick an electric prob up it's bottom, that animal suffers for a while because being electrocuted doesn't cause death instantly.

What "pain" does the animal feel when it is slaughtered the halal way?



Posted from TSR Mobile

Thanks for your opinion, which is based on something, but others have no clue regarding what's humane and what's not. I've seen it myself having conversations. Stunning still hurts, people think its inhumane as stunning isn't allowed. But my opinion is why many complain on inhumanity, yet ignore the animal still loses its life and gets eaten. Even the conditions many are kept in! That's inhumane from a veggie p.o.v. But no big media frenzy over that.
yes, I know it's not everyone, its some people.

If I came to your house for a meal and you served Halal meat which I refused to eat it would you be offended?

It would be on the grounds that the animal may not have been killed in the most humane way possible and I don't want to eat something killed in the name of a god I don't believe in and whose teachings I don't like.

So would you be offended and on future occasions would you be willing to cook me non halal meat? As some vegetarians will cook meat for their non vege friends?

Edit: Obviously, this is a question for Muslims.

Edit: Thanks for the advice on letting the chef know in advance. The only problem is how to know if someone is a Muslim. I know some people are very open about their faith but others are not. It might be seen as insensitive if I asked ever person of Arab/ SE Asian/ E African decent if they are a Muslim when they invite me over.

I'm not sure I follow. If there's a new, less painful method, it should be used. The mere fact that it used to be the most humane method (I've no idea if this is so) doesn't mean that it's still okay.

Animals that are killed by ritual slaughter can be alive for up to 2 minutes (maybe more) once the throat has been cut. The animal tries to breath but cannot, the pain it feels must be immense.

I do apologize. It seems it was 900 million (halfway down).


And your issue is with the "pain" that the animal must suffer in the next few seconds?

You mentioned that the stunning process was "quicker". I merely queried whether the extra step of stunning was indeed "quicker".


It cannot feel pain because of the endorphin which is released. If you cut yourself, do you feel the pain right away or after a few seconds?

I've often said that I dislike eating Halal meat because the animals are not killed in a human manner, so I completely agree with you. However, when I have discussed my reservations with Muslim friends they have all been unable to see my point of view and appeared to be slightly offended. I couldn't blame them for that though because they associate Halal meat with purity, etc: if I was a Muslim, I would associate it with that too, but as it is, I only associate with animal cruelty.

Animals that are killed by ritual slaughter can be alive for up to 2 minutes (maybe more) once the throat has been cut. The animal tries to breath but cannot, the pain it feels must be immense.

A bolt stun gun will render the animal insesible immediately, ready for it to be bled without fear that animal will wake. up. This is becase as soon as the animal hits the ground, it's brain is no longer connected to the spine, nervous system etc ie all the parts that make it feel pain.

No-one sticks an electic probe up it's backside for it to be electricuted. This clearly show you have no idea what you are going on about and naive you really are.

Exactly this! Halal meat is cruel, the animals pretty much suffocates or bleeds to death!

How would the animal feel pain?


Posted from TSR Mobile

How would it "suffocate or bleed to death"?

Yes. I eat cow, but I won't eat veal. I'll eat pate, but I won't eat foie gras. There's no hypocrisy here. The quality of life of the animal matters. It seems incredibly odd to me that you could say 'well, it's going to die anyway, so it doesn't matter if it's in horrible pain!'.

I believe that the suffering from having it's throat cut is superior to the suffering from being stunned.

Animals that are killed by ritual slaughter can be alive for up to 2 minutes (maybe more) once the throat has been cut. The animal tries to breath but cannot, the pain it feels must be immense.

A bolt stun gun will render the animal insesible immediately, ready for it to be bled without fear that animal will wake. up. This is becase as soon as the animal hits the ground, it's brain is no longer connected to the spine, nervous system etc ie all the parts that make it feel pain.

No-one sticks an electic probe up it's backside for it to be electricuted. This clearly show you have no idea what you are going on about and naive you really are.