Hunting : Your views?

I think you missing the point, hunting can be done in a plethora of way not just the horse and hounds method. That is also about shooting and culling and even trapping if that is what you are in to.

I have actually passed numerous mental evaluations over the past seven years due to various Job's if it is's any consolation?

I have mild OCD, otherwise i'm fine.


So your fine if it's for culling reasons or if you fancy some Vennison?


Maybe two hundred years ago, now it's almost exclusively the province of the working to lower middle class, and we don't go around in bands of nine on horseback either.

Generally in bands of one or two, through cold snow, muddy fields and murky forests freezing our tits off.


So people aiming to preserve our countryside and the species that reside within it are morons?
Cool.

But you're still using a trap which is a man made tool. The odds aren't 'fair' so to speak either way. In terms of being humane I think I'd prefer to kill an animal with a clean shot from a rifle than trap it where it could remain for hours before you come back to check the trap.

Hunting for sport is wrong, but if you are hunting for survival then I can understand.

I somehow doubt he was hunting for survival

im against it. i understand people like the adrenaline rush, hunting an animal for fun and killing it seems wasteful and silly. that pic with you grinning annoys me!

If it's for food I don't see a problem. I would personally like to do the same but would rather hunt without a firearm, e.g. set traps. Personal preference I guess but something just doesn't sit right with me when it comes to using a firearm. Seems a bit cowardly to me.

I actually have done that.

But I assume that you still kill?

It's been conclusively proven that a clean kill from a(human) hunter is far less painful and stressfull than the way big-game is killed by any other predator.
It's also far less distressing than the way a lot of Animals die of old age.

99% of Hunters only hunt controlled populations.

For instance I primarily hunt British Deer, British Deer are not endangered, they are grossly overpopulated..they are a vermin.
In fact there are so many of them, that the deer are damaging the ecosystems and new targets mean we need to kill an extra 18'000 more a year than we currently do in order to protect other species of animal and plant life from serious and irreparable damage.

I agree any Species that is endangered or suffering from low population levels should not be hunted.

You could say the same about loads of aspects of human life. There's lost of things humans do/use today that could be described as unnecessary.

I would also like to bring up the point about culling for conservation, not just sport and food. Deer are culled to prevent damage to woodland, as are rabbits. Mink are culled to protect water voles. Grey squirrels are culled to protect red squirrels. Most woodland creation projects require control of some species like deer and rabbits. All of that is necessary, and all of it heavily involves hunting, trapping and shooting. In this debate, we need to remember that hunting/shooting is done for many different reasons.

I can't find any studies supporting your assertion that this has "been conclusively proven", but there are many instances of hunting accidents and non-clean kills. The only other objection that I would raise is that even if it is less painful and distressing than the way they die of old age, some of the nonhuman animals which are regularly hunted likely have some self-awareness and wish to go on living, ergo it's not for us to decide when they die.

Similarly, there are better alternatives to combatting human overpopulation than randomly killing newborn babies, which are even less rational and self-aware than adult nonhuman animals are: they don't have any sense of their existing over time.

All life wishes to go on living, it's the reason for life.
Plant's want to go on living, it's quite literally the only thing they exist for.

Alternatve methods, have been found to be less expensive and practically unsustainaible/ineducable.

Plants are not self-aware. They do not want to go on living: they cannot think.

Could you give me an example of these "alternative methods" please?