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Original post by liberalluv
How about you educate yourself with this because it is far too complex for me to explain it to you here. Im not an SJW, you're just an uneducated moron who probably spends most of your time talking about "political correctness".
Ah, 'educate.' Straight from the Ministry of Truth: educate yourself not in the classical sense, but the liberal sense; use the correct words, terminology and pronouns, or they'll declare you a blasphemer and kick you into social exile.
These 'educated' people you speak of. Are these the same 63% of 'students' who didn't know the date of the EU referendum one month before it was due to be held? Are these the 67% of students who'd ban free speech if it happened to offend minority groups?
Or maybe they are the type of 'educated' students who suspended their Union President for tweeting 'all lives matter'?
Or are they the 'educated' students who want to remove white men from the curriculum? Or maybe they are the educated students who banned white men from attending equality conferences?
Or maybe they are the type of 'educated' student who would write posts entitled 'white men should never hold elected position in British universities again' on the Independent? Or the type of 'educated' student who proclaims a 'Harry Potter mural perpetuates white, CIS, man power'?
Or maybe they are the type of 'educated' student who will grow up to proclaim 'the suggestion is it's somehow possible to separate whiteness from oppression, and it's not. There can be no white race', like this Harvard Professor.
Which type of 'education' are you referring to? Your education? I think you mean indoctrination.
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Original post by Retired_Messiah
I spend most of my time talking about memes tbh.
It's never a good sign when somebody resorts to name calling and stereotyping while simultaneously being unable to actually express their argument. Stuff like this is why the full on anti-PC crowd hate people, it's rare for pro-PC camps to actually articulate an argument for their point of view, beyond perhaps a long debunked statistic.
It's never a good sign when somebody resorts to name calling and stereotyping while simultaneously being unable to actually express their argument. Stuff like this is why the full on anti-PC crowd hate people, it's rare for pro-PC camps to actually articulate an argument for their point of view, beyond perhaps a long debunked statistic.
It's ironic because you called me an sjw, you hypocrite.
Now as i said, the link between third wave western feminism and white supremacy has always existed and rarely disputed. But it's a shame people like you are too ignorant to educate yourself and are too quick to mock others.
As i said, im not here to articulate my argument given you have proven how ignorant and stupid you are and it would be a complete waste of time for me.
But since people like you, the Paul joseph watson fans and the stupid libertarians are only here to win internet arguments, you can have this victory to add meaning to your bland boring life. Well done.
Original post by liberalluv
It's ironic because you called me an sjw, you hypocrite.
Now as i said, the link between third wave western feminism and white supremacy has always existed and rarely disputed. But it's a shame people like you are too ignorant to educate yourself and are too quick to mock others.
As i said, im not here to articulate my argument given you have proven how ignorant and stupid you are and it would be a complete waste of time for me.
But since people like you, the Paul joseph watson fans and the stupid libertarians are only here to win internet arguments, you can have this victory to add meaning to your bland boring life. Well done.
Now as i said, the link between third wave western feminism and white supremacy has always existed and rarely disputed. But it's a shame people like you are too ignorant to educate yourself and are too quick to mock others.
As i said, im not here to articulate my argument given you have proven how ignorant and stupid you are and it would be a complete waste of time for me.
But since people like you, the Paul joseph watson fans and the stupid libertarians are only here to win internet arguments, you can have this victory to add meaning to your bland boring life. Well done.
who the **** is paul joseph watson
Original post by Retired_Messiah
who the **** is paul joseph watson
A popular YouTuber, he works for Info Wars.
Original post by Retired_Messiah
who the **** is paul joseph watson
An alt right racist hypocrite who works for a news outlet that spews hateful propaganda.
Original post by The Last Citizen
A popular YouTuber, he works for Info Wars.
Original post by liberalluv
An alt right racist hypocrite who works for a news outlet that spews hateful propaganda.
lmao the difference in reply style is killing me
Original post by Retired_Messiah
lmao the difference in reply style is killing me
You'll find that im more accurate and that other idiot is probably another one of his impressionable and brainless fans.
Original post by liberalluv
You'll find that im more accurate and that other idiot is probably another one of his impressionable and brainless fans.
You haven't replied to my previous post about the type of 'education' you were referring to. Can you advise please?
Original post by liberalluv
You'll find that im more accurate and that other idiot is probably another one of his impressionable and brainless fans.
I don't know all he stated was pure fact idk how you'd get more accurate when you provided less objective facts and more subjective opinions than him but whooo knows.
Original post by Retired_Messiah
I don't know all he stated was pure fact idk how you'd get more accurate when you provided less objective facts and more subjective opinions than him but whooo knows.
im sorry im just very aggressive. But that's besides the point. You seem smart so i recommend you dont watch the fools videos. His source is very unreliable and hes a manipulative moron.
I know this will make you more tempted to check him out.
Original post by liberalluv
im sorry im just very aggressive. But that's besides the point. You seem smart so i recommend you dont watch the fools videos. His source is very unreliable and hes a manipulative moron.
I know this will make you more tempted to check him out.
I know this will make you more tempted to check him out.
"Never watch videos that give views opposite to mine" hmmm
For comparison, who's somebody you'd recommend? I'll then go off and get both sides and come back a new reformed educated person. In theory.
Original post by Retired_Messiah
"Never watch videos that give views opposite to mine" hmmm
For comparison, who's somebody you'd recommend? I'll then go off and get both sides and come back a new reformed educated person. In theory.
For comparison, who's somebody you'd recommend? I'll then go off and get both sides and come back a new reformed educated person. In theory.
unfortunately there arent any youtubers who spend their time dedicated to unbiased news because i am a moderate. Ignore the username, that was just a troll thing.
Original post by Retired_Messiah
"Never watch videos that give views opposite to mine" hmmm
For comparison, who's somebody you'd recommend? I'll then go off and get both sides and come back a new reformed educated person. In theory.
For comparison, who's somebody you'd recommend? I'll then go off and get both sides and come back a new reformed educated person. In theory.
Probably Lena Dunham, she's a prominent feminist who 'supports the extinction of white men.'
Or maybe Jessica Valenti, another best selling feminist who likes to 'bathe in male tears.'
Or maybe Julie Bindel, another prominent feminist and Guardian journalist who wants to 'send men to camps and take them out like a library book, returning them at the end of the day.'
Or maybe she just wants you to read the BBC, so you can come across entirely liberal, entirely non-discriminatory questions and news items like 'do we need men?' Of course, 86% of the BBC's recruitment budget is spent at The Guardian (according to FOI requests), so you may as well just read that, where you'll find the same headline/content: 'do we need men?'
I can only expect the follow-up will be orientated around whether we need women in society. After that, we can focus on whether we need black men, Muslims and homosexuals, right? Yeah, thought not. And they wonder why everyone thinks the BBC is biased.
Then again, owing to its subscription to the principles of cultural relativism, the BBC has no problem stoking ethnocentrism by speaking and applauding 'black culture' and 'black heroes'; I do wonder what the possibility is of them doing a follow-up on 'white heroes' and 'white culture'? Yeah, thought not.
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Original post by The Last Citizen
Correct, except it doesn't want to destabilise it, it wants to deconstruct it. Every reason you could ever need for opposing 'liberals', and feminism, you can find on the Liberal Wall of Hate.
It wasn't a movement built from the ground-up; the second wave was started by middle-class Marxist academics and journalists who wanted to project all of their internal conflict onto the political process through the conduit of 'the personal is political.' No-one did anything to stop them at the time, despite their hateful rhetoric.
It's all about using identity as a proxy for class warfare; much like multiculturalism. It's bedded in the relativist tradition, which suggests there are no 'universal truths', all morality is contextual and people and cultures are valid if the people who belong to those cultures, or identities, deem they are valid (judging another's identity is 'ethnocentric.'
It's all orientated around one thing: creating a new 'under-class' which will support their attempts towards global governance. Women are cannon fodder for such things, particularly as they become more reliant on state, as opposed to social, power.
It wasn't a movement built from the ground-up; the second wave was started by middle-class Marxist academics and journalists who wanted to project all of their internal conflict onto the political process through the conduit of 'the personal is political.' No-one did anything to stop them at the time, despite their hateful rhetoric.
It's all about using identity as a proxy for class warfare; much like multiculturalism. It's bedded in the relativist tradition, which suggests there are no 'universal truths', all morality is contextual and people and cultures are valid if the people who belong to those cultures, or identities, deem they are valid (judging another's identity is 'ethnocentric.'
It's all orientated around one thing: creating a new 'under-class' which will support their attempts towards global governance. Women are cannon fodder for such things, particularly as they become more reliant on state, as opposed to social, power.
This is only because the politicial establishment used the Cold War/Soviets to beat socialists over the head with. They were forced underground into identity politics.
We absolutely must renounce the culture whereby the establishment smears challengers to the existing order of things and an unthinking populace supports them.
We must have meaningful and earnest freedom of expression in our politics, the quid pro quo being a commitment to logic and reasoned argument rather than feels and identity. On both sides of the equation that goes for Trump as easily as it goes for the snowflakes.
The people too have responsibilities as well as rights under democracy. They must be true citizens, engaged, educated, questioning, invested in the advancement not only of themselves but their nation, the human race itself.
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True words spoken by our lord and savior Milo.
It's reached the point that it's often impossible to have a discussion about feminism because of the shaming and de-platforming tactics that are employed. Oftentimes you will have people, in their fight for equality of outcome, deny evidence of biological, psychological differences between men and women because this information is inconvenient to the goals of the movement. If there are psychological differences between men and women, you shouldn't expect equality of outcome, so acknowledging (or sometimes just considering) that these are not caused by culture or environmental influences has become taboo.
But, science is science and reality is the way that it is, so it will always be an uphill battle for the movement unless their research basis receives some dramatic breakthroughs. From recent political events, it also seems that people's patience for being guilt-tripped and shamed into 'tolerance' is reaching a natural limit.
But, science is science and reality is the way that it is, so it will always be an uphill battle for the movement unless their research basis receives some dramatic breakthroughs. From recent political events, it also seems that people's patience for being guilt-tripped and shamed into 'tolerance' is reaching a natural limit.
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Original post by SHallowvale
I don't care.
I'm more annoyed by the people complaining about it than those supporting it. Infact I see more of the former than the latter, which kinda makes you wonder.
I'm more annoyed by the people complaining about it than those supporting it. Infact I see more of the former than the latter, which kinda makes you wonder.
I'd be inclined to agree, if it were harmless. In this case though the movement is exerting an influence over infrastructural systems, affecting things such as people's employment prospects, or wasting government money on programmes aiming to achieve equality of outcome between the genders. If people want to talk nonsense on the internet, obviously that's totally fine, but these ambitions are frankly crazy, and if criticism is meant for anything, it's to hold government to account. Discussion of this topic, as tiring as it's becoming, is unfortunately necessary and will continue.
Original post by James385
The hashtag 'kill all men' says enough. To be more specific 'kill all white men'. White men are basically at fault for everything that goes wrong in their lives. It has now become a pathetic movement. The wage gap is a myth. The earnings gap is a thing but only because men tend to seek out higher paying careers... with good reason given how there is an influx in women seeking wealthy men for marriage... oh yeah and if they divorce she gets about half of his wealth (the feminists don't talk about this, infact they love it). Summary = Extra privileges for the LGBT community + kill all white men = cancerous movement
Feminism is an authoritarian movement that has a lot hide and trust me this killallmen hashtag is nothing compared to some of the more ugly things they do...
Here's a another example;
[video="youtube;9tQSOlF9ZZM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQSOlF9ZZM[/video]
This is an advert by Swedish feminists for a play celebrating feminist Valeri Solanas' book 'S.C.U.M Manifesto'...Namely, 'the Society for Cutting Up Men Manifesto'. Its a highly sexist book (written back in the 60s) that preaches that men are not human and encourages women and feminists to use men as sex objects and kill them and reduce their population in the world. Valeri Solanas acted on her own teachings by trying to kill Andy Warhol (very famous 20th century male artist) in the 60s.
Original post by sleepysnooze
third wave feminism is so different to classical "first wave" feminism that it might as well be the opposite of it.
Read up some history on feminism and you will find that all waves of feminism are equally based on hate, lies and manipulation. Let me quote you Professor Mary Daly, a second wave feminist theologian:
"if life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think that this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction in the population of males." this is her reply to Susan Bridle (feminist who works for Gender Liberation an NGO) who was writing an article for her organisation based on the interview with Daly. Susan had asked the Professor for her opinion on 'reducing' the population of men in the world....please find the discussion between the professor and this person below:
In 1999 Professor Daly retired from Boston college rather than admit male students into her class.
Professor Daly died in 2010 celebrated as a feminist icon/hero.
http://elizabethdebold.com/in-honor-of-the-extraordinary-courageous-and-obstreperous-mary-daly/
Additionally let me quote you an exert from feminist Valeri Solana's book SCUM written back in 1967...50 years ago....
""Life" in this "society" being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of "society" being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and eliminate the male sex."
Feminism has always been filled with manipulation, lies and hate. Its a terrorist ideology. The majority of people who say that its just third wave feminism that is bad are ignorant to feminist history.
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