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Chucke1992

I never get this logic. So because something happens somewhere in the world we shouldn't care about something less serious on our doorstep? There's genocides going on across the world, why should anyone care about the occasional stabbing or terrorist attack in London, right?

Before moving towards the next stage we should bring everybody to the same level. The whole world should have the same ideals - if not the whole world but huge chunks of it.

So instead of fighting over where "this" or "that" touch is a harassment, humanity should make other societies accept that killing or raping somebody under the name of god or whatever is not good. Or that shooting at weddings is not the good.

Basically we are going towards collapse because we are making one societies completely sterile, while others are going towards the pure savagery and fine with that. When with the sterile society will clash with the savage society it will lose 100%

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Dheorl

Original post by Chucke1992

So we shouldn't worry about a single issue in the UK, because somewhere in the world has it worse? You're beating your own record for moronic concepts.

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omichael

Original post by Chucke1992

That's why I call it modern witch hunting :smile:

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Chucke1992

Original post by Dheorl

So we shouldn't worry about a single issue in the UK, because somewhere in the world has it worse? You're beating your own record for moronic concepts.

We should worry about real problems and not about what one person or another considers offensive. Before the collapse of Byzantium philosophers were arguing what gender angels have.

Original post by omichael

It is hilariously similar - we have a mob that claims that a person did the witchcraft, we have the church (government) that enforce such actions and we have the trials where person should proof that he did not commit the witchcraft. Good we are humane enough not to burn people at the stake - just ostracize it from the society. :smile:

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Trapz99

Definitely seems a bit exaggerated. The majority of people have been victims of sexual violence?

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Dheorl

Original post by Chucke1992

We should worry about real problems and not about what one person or another considers offensive. Before the collapse of Byzantium philosophers were arguing what gender angels have.

Having things stolen and being physically grabbed isn't "offensive", it's illegal, and for good reason. Should I come murder your parents? I'm sure many people in the world wouldn't be offended by that fact, so what's wrong with it?

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Chucke1992

Original post by Dheorl

That's what I am talking about we should raise the overall humanity towards the point when we don't have places where killing family out of revenge or due to clan decision is acceptable. Hell, we even have a lot of places where killing somebody is not that huge problem and it's considered normal.

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Dheorl

Original post by Chucke1992

But why focus on the lowest first? As mentioned there's genocide happening atm, so seeing as murder isn't as bad as that I should be able to do it until all the genocide stops, right?

Why don't we just solve whatever problems we see in front of us? Wouldn't that be much more efficient? And the problem a lot of people see in front of them on a regular basis is harassment, but oh no, because someone, somewhere just got killed we should ignore that harassment and just let it happen? There is literally zero logic there.

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Chucke1992

Original post by Dheorl

Why don't we just solve whatever problems we see in front of us? Wouldn't that be much more efficient? And the problem a lot of people see in front of them on a regular basis is harassment, but oh no, because someone, somewhere just got killed we should ignore that harassment and just let it happen? There is literally zero logic there.

Because countries do not exist in the vacuum. So what if you have highly cultured welfare state? For example, according to expectation the population on the African continent will increase in the future - guess what culture and what will they bring if decide to move towards european countries if nothing changes there?

Or for example a lot of people turkish migrants supported Erdogan. And those guys are already living here.

Anyway instead of Star Trek we will have middle ages around the world. It will be fun.

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Dheorl

Original post by Chucke1992

I'm not saying don't try and change stuff elsewhere, but that doesn't mean you need to ignore everything happening here. How is me ignoring someone being harassed helping prevent a war in Africa?

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Chucke1992

Original post by Dheorl

I'm not saying don't try and change stuff elsewhere, but that doesn't mean you need to ignore everything happening here. How is me ignoring someone being harassed helping prevent a war in Africa?

The problem is that the social tension is already rather big. And it adds additional oil to the flame to the already unstable community. Instead of stabilization of everything - let's completely integrate the refugees first for example but more to come soon - everything is thrown in the bucket thus dividing the society and splitting the people into multiple tribes.

Interesting is that everything is happening around the world at the same time - a lot of changes big or small but simultaneously. Throwing nazi and racism words left and right (thus devaluating them due to being used in every minor incident) - very dangerous because it often leads to "if you call us like that let me show what does it really mean", economical disturbances (debts, oil prices, war over gas), territorial conflicts (countries are started to recall some places that belonged to them in the past)
. What a nice run. Very exciting.

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Dheorl

Original post by Chucke1992

Yea, sure integrate refugees, but don't integrate them into a society where morons like you think groping a stranger in public is acceptable. Integrate them into what we want our society to be, otherwise it's just more people to reeducate further down the line.

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JoshDawg

Original post by 303Pharma

I never mentioned the Rothschilds, that would clearly make me an anti-semitic shitlord. I don't know who the richest US families are, but it's widely reported that an infinitesimally small number of hyper-rich families, have a massively, profoundly, completely disproportionate influence on society, and use political tools, and social movements to maintain their privilege and status. Because, obviously, it is in their best interests to do so. And because they can, they do.

you best do your research then because the rothschilds is one of the families you are talking about

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Little Tail Chaser

Original post by CookieButter

Trying harder is not necessary with that first comment of yours little tail chaser. My two replies to that comment more than suffice in addressing and exposing it for what it is.

I've been trying to find the time to reply to this diatribe in full for days but I've come to the conclusion that that may not happen. So instead of leaving you hanging further you're going to have to cope with the condensed version for now. I wanted to post before the thread dies for good.

1. I’m not sure you understand the meaning of the word specific. That figure that I gave is not specific. It’s the opposite of specific.

Bloody hell you're right. It's almost, almost, almost as I was being sarcastic there.

2. Before editing your comment you wrote that you were sceptical about that number. I'd like to address that part of your comment if I may.

You are sceptical because you have been raised in a part of the world that has put a gynocentric vail over your eyes. Additionally, you come across strongly like a practicing feminist.

“Practicing feminist”- literally no idea what this is supposed to mean.

This will compound your selective bias and therefore your ignorance. We live in a part of the world where feminism is highly institutionalised and feminism has a certain narrative about the way this world is run. This narrative dictates that we live in a world that is run by a system created by men for the benefit of men and subjugation, enslavement and abuse of women. The victimisation of men by women throughout time does not serve this narrative. Such issues are therefore sidelined, buried, ignored.

I address these points further on in my reply.

Now to answer your question. Men who were accused of rape by women have throughout time often become victims of lynch mobs. In the US alone over ten thousand men were lynched during the Jim Crow era between 1867 and 1965. The majority of these men were falsely accused of rape by predatory women motivated by racism (False Accusations of Rape: Lynching in the 21st Century By John Davis). However, these lynchings caused by false accusations didn’t only affect black people but whites like Leo Frank too. The mobs would capture the falsely accused man, torture him for hours on end, castrate him and cut off his limbs before burning him alive.

Leo Frank was convicted of the murder of a white girl, for which he is now considered to have been falsely accused. What happened to him is tragic, but so is the murder (and presumed rape, from the fact that her dress was torn and up at her waist when her body was found) of the other victim, Mary Phagan, who was only 11 years old. The lynch mob’s anger was absolutely misdirected and the violence they committed was abhorrent, but the idea that they had nothing to be angry about is false. The number of male victims and the number of female victims in this scenario is equal. The ratio of the perpetrators, however, was not. Jim Conley, who it is now generally agreed actually committed the murder and who was sentenced for one year for being an accomplice, was male. Frank’s prosecutor was male. Every single one of the 28 people who carried out the lynching were male. Your example is full of violence at the hands of men, from the men who accused him to the men that murdered him, yet somehow women had the power here and misandry is to blame. Flawless logic.

On the cheery subject of burning people alive, shall we discuss witch hunts, which resulted in hundreds of thousands (estimates vary from 30,000-1,000,000) of 'executions' globally, overwhelmingly targeting women in the majority of countries. In England 80% of witch hunt targets were female (with accused men being related to a woman already accused, in most cases), and in other countries this figure reached 90%.

Today this same problem carries on in countries like India where feminism through lies and exaggerations similar to yours in this thread have riled people up against men leading to many lynchings. A recent example of one such lynching was of Syed Sarif Khan a man falsely accused of rape by a woman who was never held to account for the false accusation and who's identity remains protected by the state to this day thanks to rape shield laws introduced by feminists such as yourself in that country. The lynch mob was lead by 200 women.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/girls-in-school-college-uniforms-led-lynch-mob-says-dimapur-sp/

Another shocking event that I obviously do not condone, but before we use this example as proof that India has somehow succumbed to misandry, shall we consider:

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The fact that thousands of dowry deaths are reported in India each year. These overwhelmingly affect women.

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Looking at some individual cases of violence against women, we have The 13 year old Indian girl that was raped, denied an abortion, had a baby, and was then made to marry her rapist.

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The student gang raped by 6 men on a bus(including the driver) in 2016. She died from her injuries, which also required part of her intestines to be removed.

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The man who beheaded his daughter due to what he considered to be ‘indecent behavior’

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The fact that under Indian law, marital rape isn’t recognised as an offence. In Indian law, if a woman is between the ages of 15 and 18 a woman 'must permit her husband to have legitimate intercourse with her when she is fit to do so”. The age condition is a recent addition, prior to October 2017 this rule applied to any age. Put yes, go ahead and continue the narrative that nasty women have poisoned India’s laws against men. Grow up. If women in India are angry about sexual assault then I don’t blame them.

Furthermore, before we accuse women as being the ones more likely to form mobs, would you like to consider:

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The Hassi Messaoud mob attacks, in which a mob of 300 men attacked, raped, mutilated and killed women, and dragged them through the streets naked. This was repeated the night after the initial event, before the violence spread to a city and businesses owned by lone women were vandalised.

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The murder of Farkhunda Malikzada, who was publicly beaten and killed by a mob after being falsely accused of burning the Qu’ran. Too bad it’s only women who make false accusations… oh, wait. I’ll let you guess the gender of the people who murdered her.

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The murder of Otera Bibi, a mentally disabled woman, who was attacked by a mob, tied to a tractor and beaten to death. She was accused of kidnapping a child.

‘Mob mentality’ is not a female thing, so don’t pretend otherwise.

These abuses, this violence by proxy committed by predatory women have been going on since the dawn of man. The story of prophet Joseph, 3500 years ago cited in the quran, the bible and in Jewish texts, is a another good example of this. He was falsely accused of rape by the wife of his master who wanted to sleep with him and he rejected her. Angered by his rejection she tears her clothes and runs to her husband and informs him that Joseph had raped her. As a result Joseph is thrown in prison and has his life destroyed. This might give people like yourself ideas. I hope it doesn't.

“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.” (Timothy 2:11-14)

Men have authority over women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. (Surah an-Nisa, verse 34)

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Tell me more about how religious texts promote false rape accusations. Hell, I’ve even heard critique of the fact that Mary mother of Jesus was impregnated without consent. I think that’s an extreme view despite not being religious myself, but it’s a valid comment.

Religious texts are full of pieces open to interpretation or that are outright ignored by followers due to recognition that they’re not morally correct (or even if they’re just inconvenient, I don’t see many Christians that are vocally against eating shellfish or wearing mixed fabrics). I can pick and choose segments too.

Similar crimes where carried out by white women towards black men during the 400 years of the slavery trade. White women would rape male black slaves and if impregnated or caught accuse the slave of having raped them. The slaves would then be murdered in the most brutal ways (Within the Plantation Household: Black and White Women of the Old South (Gender and American Culture) By Elizabeth Fox-Genovese).

“like the crime of rape itself, false accusations of rape are about power.” John Davis, specialist in the American judiciary system.

The racist treatment of black people under the transatlantic slave trade was not limited to men. Mistreatment of women frequently included rape by the white male slave owners. Pregnant women would be forced to lie down in a hole so that they could be lashed without harming the baby. Raped women chewed on poisonous plants to induce abortions or render themselves infertile.

Women have throughout history used false rape claims in pursuit of power and control. They exploit the protective nature that men carry towards them through false claims to allow them to gain what they want. Throughout time powers that be have exploited this same tactic to murder, not hundreds of thousands of men, but millions. They used the “They are raping our women” tactic to rile societies up against the “enemy”. Nazi Germany used rape claims such as this to incite people against the jews. The same propaganda was used by the allies against the germans to enlist men and send them off to their deaths by the hundreds of thousands. The same culture is exploited by the right wing in certain parts of the world against immigrants and the same culture has been exploited by feminists such as yourself since the 60s to gain sympathy for their cause which they then use to worm their way into power and control in society.

Picture on the far left is a British propaganda picture from world war one inciting people against germans. the picture in the middle from nazi germany and the one on the far right (no pun intended) is from Poland inciting poles against coloured immigrants.

“They’re raping our women” sounds a lot like it’s the men using this rhetoric.

Artist of the picture on the left: Harry R. Hopps. A male.
I can’t find the artist of the second image, the closest attribution I can find is the person who published it; Dr. Kurt Plischke. A male.
I can’t find the designer behind the final image either, but given that the editorial team of the magazine is [url="https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/[url"]https://www.wsieciprawdy.pl/o-tygodniku.html]overwhelmingly male, I would be more than willing to wager that the editor who approved this image as the cover is male too.

So there you have it; I fail to see how male depiction of men is the fault of women, and where on Earth do you get the idea that feminism in any way supports the ‘damsel in distress’ image of women?

Let’s not pretend either that the racist depiction of black men as being especially violent is perpetuated specifically by women, either. The police in many countries (disproportionately male) seem pretty good at that.

False rape accusations and lies surrounding rape and sexual assault of women are a powerful weapon that has been used by powers and ideologies throughout time and has lead people to wars and promoted the death and destruction of millions of men throughout history. The problem with liars is that the only thing that they see is the benefit of the lie to themselves. The don’t see nor understand nor, I think, care for the consequences of these lies to others.

High suicide rates amongst men aren’t just caused by society discouraging men to seek help. Thats just the tip of the ice-burg that is male disadvantagement. Suicide rates are much higher amongst men than thy are in women because men have it harder than women in life.

Imagine having no rights to your children after divorce and being subject to the whims of your ex-partner who gets to decide when or if you get to see your children. Such female privilage and sexism in the UK and other feminised parts of the world have lead many men to suicide.

Imagine having no say in whether your child lives or dies because you live in a gynocentric, hypocritical society that preaches equality but denies you your equal say in abortion.

Imagine living in a society that deems you a worthless deadbeat when you stop being able to provide for women, almost as if your entire purpose for existence revolves around catering to their needs.

Imagine living in a world where you are burdened with protecting everyone around you at the cost of your life. A world where your life is worth less than that of opposite gender that has the audacity to claim to be disadvantaged.

Imagine living in a world when you fall on hard times and become homeless people walk past you in disgust. A world that had you been born with a hole in between your legs would rush to your aid.

Imagine living in a world where your life is put below that of everyone else in disasters and conflicts. A world that puts the life of that opposite gender that falsely claims to be at a disadvantage above that of yours.

Imagine that you live in a world where you die by the thousands in conflicts every year and nobody cares whilst the opposite gender lives on and reaps the benefits of your sacrifices. A world where a single death from that opposite, privileged gender with a hole in between its legs causes a media uproar. A world that values the lives of women more so than those of men.

Imagine living in a world where you are burdened with the harshest responsibilities and exposed to the greatest risks. A world that despite this does not in any way support you but focuses all its efforts on that other gender that is protected from these responsibilities and risks yet has the audacity to claim that it is disadvantaged.

Imagine living in a world that does not recognise your sexual abuse. A world that pats you on the back when you are raped by the opposite sex and refuses to call your abuser a rapist. A world that refuses to hold your rapist to account because she is a woman and in most countries around the globe women, thanks to feminists, the architects of rape laws, women cannot be charged with rape.

Imagine living in a world where you are many times more likely to be a victim of violence and many times less likely to wind up in university than that other sex born with the hole in between its legs yet you get no support and the opposite sex gets everything.

I can go on and on and on and on and on and on …..”men commit suicide because they are discouraged from seeking help by toxic masculinity”?… get the hell out you sexist, born with a golden spoon in your mouth by virtue of your gender, privileged ignoramus. (Some of that loathing that I have for liars, the one that I mentioned in my last comment is starting to show now. I need to rain it in).

I’m just touching the surface of the this issue of suicide amongst men. I got to be thankful though. Things are better now than they were ten years ago when people used to say that more men killed themselves because of their greater disposition to violence…lol now thanks to all the mens rights activism people have started waking up, changing their tone and challenging feminazi concepts…

For every disadvantage that you name for women. I can name you ten that are a million times worse for men. So don’t preach to me, ok?

Imagine a world in which people deem it acceptable to mutilate your genitals when you’re a child, for the purpose of preserving your virginity and, later, to remove your sexual pleasure so that you’re less likely to cheat. In the future, this makes you more likely to suffer complications and/or die during childbirth. This is of course done without anaesthetic. Imagine a world in which, even if you live in the UK, where the procedure is prohibited, a grand total of 0 people have been convicted for this violence against women since the laws were introduced in 1985. And before you go off, I also think it’s absolutely wrong to circumcise men before they are able to understand the procedure and consent to it themselves, but it would be extremely disingenuous to pretend that this is done to girls for the same reason as it is done for boys.

Imagine a world in which your family are expected to pay the family of your partner for the privilege of marrying him. If what your family pay isn’t deemed enough, regardless of what your family can afford, your partner or his family may throw acid in your face or kill you, possibly by burning you alive.

Imagine a world in which your own family will kill you if you have sex outside of marriage (including if you are raped), refuse to enter an arranged marriage, give up religion, dress in a way considered by men to be unacceptable, or if you are homosexual. Imagine a world in which these so-called ‘honour killings’ are treated as a lesser offence with a lesser penalty by those in authority.

Imagine a world in which your access to education is restricted or denied simply because your education is deemed less important than that of a man. Imagine a world in which forced marriage whilst you are still a child is a reason why you may be unable to continue education. Imagine a world in which two thirds of the illiterate people are of your gender.

Imagine a world in which members of the opposite gender feel so entitled to your body, and are so privileged, that they inspect your genitals at the end of high school for evidence that you are still a virgin, and if found not to be (using a test that can only be highly inaccurate), they can ensure that you do not graduate. Imagine a world in which all of your hard work and study can do to waste like that. Imagine a world in which not only do members of the opposite gender use legislation to force their way into your most sensitive body parts in order to impose a sexist agenda that could cause you pain, humiliation and restrict your access to higher education and work.

Imagine a world in which when you menstruate, something that is normal and natural and that you have no control over, you are forced into a hut to separate you from the rest of your community. You’re not allowed to eat anything but rice for this time, and are not allowed blankets to keep yourself warm. You must not attend school, bathe, or (most importantly), touch any men. Childbirth also results in this treatment for a number of days. Women have died from this, all because of the unfounded taboo of menstruation.

Imagine a world in which in many countries you were not able to vote until very recently. Societal change to address the issues you face is slow because there is no one in authority that represents your gender.

Imagine a world in which only 28 heads of state are your gender. In which many countries have never had a leader of your gender, including the country deemed by many to be the most powerful in the world. Imagine a world in which only a fifth of politicians are of your gender. How on Earth can you expect your issues to be given an equal voice.

Imagine a world in which you have to travel to another country in order to access an abortion, if you can access one at all. Imagine a world in which, forced to take matters into your own hands or seek help from unskilled people in inappropriate premises, tens of thousands of members of your gender die and millions are hospitalised each year. Bonus points when you consider that in many cases even conceptions due to rape (including rape of children) and incest are not permitted to be legally aborted.

Imagine a world in which medications are routinely approved without adequate testing of the effects on women because they are seen as ‘more complicated’ because their menstrual cycles are another variable in trials. This has led to very real effects, such as car crashes due to drowsiness where drugs are found to be more potent in women than men, leading to recommendations to halve the dose in women.

Imagine a world in which world leaders can nonchalantly joke about sexual assault against members of your gender during their candidacy, and face no punishment for it. Imagine a world in which multiple people can testify against them, and still no consequences emerge. Imagine a world in which he can repeatedly make sexist remarks against their main competitor and get away with it.

Imagine a world in which every single thing you do is marked. If you have children and become a housewife to care for them, you’re lazy. If you have children and continue to work, you’re selfish. If you get married and use ‘Mrs.’ or and take your partner’s name, you’re downtrodden. If you get married and use ‘Ms.’ or keep your name, you’re brash. If you wear revealing clothing, you’re a whore. If you don’t, you’re a prude. Nothing you do is without consequence.

Imagine a world in which if you are a lesbian or do not fit in with traditional gender roles you may be ‘correctively’ raped to address your perceived deviance.

Imagine a world in which care of your children is deemed your responsibility alone, while still shaming you if you do not work. Imagine a world in which even if you work, you are expected to carry out the majority of, if not all of the housekeeping in a house that you share with somebody else. When people of the opposite gender do basic tasks such as doing their daughter’s hair, they get paraded and applauded, whereas you are expected to learn and do these things with no recognition.

Imagine a world in which your beauty is deemed your most valuable characteristic, where people will dismiss you simply for your appearance. This leads you to be at much higher risk of disordered eating.

Imagine a world in which, as an adolescent, your chest is beaten or burnt with hot objects in an attempt to prevent the natural growth of breast tissue. This is done to protect you from rape and/or early marriage, which would cut short your education.

Imagine a world in which you can be forced into prostitution, in an act of modern slavery. It’s not unlikely that you were trafficked while a child. You are overpowered completely by a member of the opposite gender who abuses you, physically, emotionally and sexually. Your pimp takes most if not all of your earnings, so you have no means of escape.

Imagine a world in which your body is so sexualised that you can’t feed your baby without people being disgusted. You may be made to leave despite the law being in your favour.

Imagine a world in which your home country, in which you are a citizen, denies your children who were also born there ability to claim the country as their own nationality. Being born there, to a citizen, doesn’t automatically earn them citizenship. No, that privilege is only passed on by men, so if he’s not a citizen then your children will be denied access to services such as an education.

Imagine a world in which the opposite gender will pressure you to send intimate pictures of yourself via social media, even if you are under the age of consent and are therefore producing child porn in the process of taking said pictures. Imagine a world in which someone of the opposite gender can instead produce these images himself by filming you without your knowledge or consent. If he’s feeling adventurous maybe he can simply hack into your online storage to access the images. Imagine a world in which these images are later used against you; as a threat (e.g. to keep you in an abusive relationship), or to embarrass and belittle you or insult your integrity.

You can’t possibly comprehend these things because your view of ‘the world’ is limited to the West, yet you have the audacity to deny your own privilege? Feminism is staunchly against many of the things you mentioned, so don’t preach to me, ok?

The problems that you mentioned are overwhelmingly not the fault of women (and how exactly do you suggest men could be given equal say in abortion without compromising the reproductive rights of women? Giving men the final say disproportionately negatively affects women, y’know the ones that have to carry and give birth to the baby).
The problems that I’ve mentioned are overwhelmingly the fault of men.

Men are twice more likely to be victims of violence in this country than women.

Violence at the hands of other men.

In other countries the rate is much higher. Yet despite this our entire focus around the globe centres around protecting women…and you have the audacity to pretend like you live in a world that discriminates against you?…lol no, you live in a world that values your life and your protection more than it does men. You are privilaged.

You can’t come at me complaining about the depletion of men as violent, and then go and then give me information that would back up that viewpoint?

Men are most likely to be murdered by another man.
Women are most likely to be murdered by an man.

You ask for references yet you provide none in your comments. Thats ok. I don’t need references from you. I don’t need to look at references to rebuke your nonsense.

We live in a world that refuses to hold female sex abusers to account. A world that congratulates their victims for having been raped or abused or groomed by them. A world that refuses to accept the idea that women can rape. A world where women in most countries cannot be charged with rape thanks to sexist definitions for rape that exclude women from prosecution for this crime. A world that trivialises female sexual violence. A world that supports and encourages female paedophilies. A world that refuses in many countries to include women in rape statistics (women were excluded from rape stats in the US until 2012)…..of course a sexist world like this will show women to be at greater risk of sexual violence than men.

A good example of our gynocentric culture surrounding rape and sexual violence statistics is feminist Mary P. Koss. A sexist, rape apologist who trivilises female sexual violence against men. A woman who believes that men who are raped by women should not be included in rape and sexual assault stats.

“Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman.” Wrote Mary in one of her papers.

This woman worked for the CDC where she helped formulate definitions for sexual assault and rape that are used to collect data in the US. Ergo, Your statistics prove nothing in this sexist gynocentric world of ours…

False rape allegations are rare?!!!! False rape allegations are high profile?!? What alternate reality do you live in?

False rape accusations are extremely common. Rape has the highest rate of false accusations of any crime in countries where laws, thanks to feminism, have been changed such they lay the burden of proof on the accused as apposed the accuser and limit his ability to defend himself with 'Rape Shields', allowing women to exploit the system for sympathy, revenge, compensation, fame etc on a rampant scale.

“False accusations of rape appear far higher than false accusations of other crimes. One study, conducted over nine years in one Midwest city, found that 41 percent were false; a study of two state universities over three years found 50 percent to be false. Meanwhile, the FBI reports the number of unfounded rape accusations at 8 percent, while the average rate of all unfounded crme reports is at 2 percent.” Roy Black, famous American attorney.

In the USA false rape accusations are four times higher than the national average. In India Over 50% of rape accusations in the capital were found to be false, this is one year after the feminisation of rape laws in that country.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-53-rape-cases-filed-between-april-2013-and-july-2013-false-delhi-commission-of-women-2023334

Additionally, actual numbers of false rape accusations in feminised countries are thought to be much higher than given by official bodies, such as the FBI, as only the most serious cases of false rape accusations are ever prosecuted by the police and so recorded in statistics.

“Prof Claire Ferguson, a forensic criminologist from the University of New England in New South Wales, Australia, said it was not the norm to prosecute women for false allegations and that only those in the most egregious cases were charged, often where the accused man had spent time in custody.”

False sexual harassment and rape accusations are used by feminism and the powers that be as a means to power and tyrannical control over men. Feminist organisations like the British WAR (Women Against Rape) defend false rape accusers. The recently started a campaign in the UK to protect false rape accusers from prosecution. Feminists like yourself always endeavour to play down false rape accusations and their always devastating impact on men, as well as protect women who make such false claims. This in turn encourages and promotes the false rape claim culture that we have had in society since the dawn of man. Ergo, feminism is a huge part of the problem.

In this paragraph, you compare the number of rape victims that you know to the number of false accusation that I know. Thats is a false equivalence. These are two different things. You cannot compare them. If you wanted to make a fair comparison tell me of the number of women that you know who have been falsely accused of rape or sexual harassment by the opposite sex? I should think the answer to this question is ZERO!!! As for your stats regarding rape and sexual harassment, you people have tendency to lie and exaggerate things. Your biggest icons, people like child molester and rapist Simone De Beauvoir, where chronic liars who distorted reality to push their agenda. So you will forgive me if I don't take your claims or your stats at face value.

One of your claims is that rape has shocking low conviction rates. Conviction rates for rape are amongst the highest of ANY CRIME in this country. They have been at 60% for the past ten years.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/docs/cps_vawg_report_2014.pdf page 45

Conviction rates for rape are almost 300% higher than the conviction rate for murder where the accused is a female and 50% higher than the conviction rate for murder where the accused is a male. i’m simply comparing conviction rates for rape here to those of other serious crimes.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/compendium/focusonviolentcrimeandsexualoffences/yearendingmarch2015/chapter2homicide

Conviction rates are low only in the minds of proponents of your ideology who lie about and distort facts and figures to promote their false “women are victims” narrative.

I’ll reply to the rest of this nonsense later but believe me I haven’t forgotten nor am I ignoring it.

You wrote that you didn’t know the man hence you have no motivation in falsely accusing him. I replied by telling you that people who make such claims don’t need to know the person that they falsely accuse of rape to accuse them of such a crime…that they can be motivated by many things sympathy, attention, money, sexism. Women have throughout time, and it is almost entirely women who make false claims, made false claims against men that they did not know. So you not knowing a person is not a valid excuse for you not falsely accusing that person.

It doesn’t matter whether it was your friend and not you who supposedly reported this crime. That does not make the slightest bit of difference. You in the end still get the attention if that was your intention and I don't know whether it was or not.

You wrote that you were afraid of having to turn up in court to face your supposed abuser and that that was one of the reasons why you decided not to go ahead with the whole affair. People who make rape or sexual assault claims are protected by rape shields from day one. As in, they know for a fact from the moment that they report the crime to the police that they won’t have to turn up to court. This is part of the system and anyone who has reported a rape or a sexual assault would know this because its part of the investigative process. Yet you don't. Your comment clearly comes across like it was written by a person who has never experienced this system. A person who has fabricated a story. I encourage people to go and read your comment and then check out the way the system works. They will find your clearly fabricated claim with its glaring inconsistencies laughable.

I hit a nerve. That comes across clearly from your replies. I don’t expect a person such as yourself to admit to a fault or change, ever. Your type only get worse with time. I just hope that my comment doesn’t inform you and make a better liar out of you in the future.

As for what happened to me, this remains not up for debate. You're still objectively wrong; I know what happened and unfortunately no amount of rhetoric from you is going to change that. I'd genuinely love to know your end game here. Is it to make me doubt myself to the point where I'm no longer comfortable sharing this story? Because that isn't going to happen. Is it to make me forget? I'd love to, but again, not going to happen. Is it somehow an attempt to tarnish any sort of ✧･ﾟ:*reputation*:･ﾟ✧ I have on this site? Because firstly, lol, it’s not that deep, and again, I think your aggressive pursuit of this says more about you than of me. The fact that you're the one that resorted to throwing insults around first, so I can see who looks more triggered by this in my eyes.

A better liar would be, by definition, someone who actually lies. Which is something I haven't done on this thread so I'm afraid your services haven't been valuable there :wink:

. For someone so deeply involved in advocating against false accusations, surely you see the irony in the fact that you're... making a false accusation against me? :lol:

Hypocrite you are. How many layers deep are we going to go here :tongue:

I won’t be discussing my personal experiences with you any further for the same reason that I don’t tend to pursue conversations with people who believe that the Earth is flat or that evolution didn’t happen (or holocaust deniers, y’know, since we reached the point of Godwin’s law applying in your last comment). Your opinion on this matter is uninformed and not relevant and you have no authority over me. I will however gladly continue to finish this reply and respond to anything else you manage to pull out of your ass.

Have a good International Women’s Day tomorrow, bro.

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