abortion at 24 weeks is murder.
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Original post by lulubel
just because i bring up a debate on here it does not mean this is where my debate ends.
please yourself
Original post by nju
I personally believe that it should be the mother's choice if they want an abortion and they should be allowed one whenever they want, whether it is after 2 weeks or 40 weeks
40 weeks? You know that is full term for a baby? Are you saying a parent should be able to 'abort' their baby after it is born?
Original post by Kiss
Why would you wait until 24 weeks down the line?
Circumstances can change.
A pregnancy which may have started in a safe manner may develop in a way that going through child birth would be a significant risk to the mother.
A woman may find herself faced with the prospect of raising a child alone after a death or separation.
Financial circumstances may change; I can think of very few people that would want to deal with the pressure of raising a child after a sudden unemployment or bankruptcy.
Basically, there are dozens of reasons why a woman may have a late term abortion. Plus, you can't just stroll into a clinic and get an abortion. You have to have been approved by two doctors and some people have to travel several miles to a specialist clinic. So if say, someone waited until their 18th week to terminate the pregnancy, had trouble being seen by two doctors, had trouble booking days off work for the initial consultation, the abortion itself and the follow-up, and had to wait a couple of weeks for an appointment, a planned 18 week abortion could quite easily turn into a 20+ week abortion.
Original post by Rooster523
you can't kill something that hasn't been born....
What
Anything which is alive can be killed. Are you suggesting that unborn babies are not alive?
I personally didn't like or agree with a recent womens magazine article about lowering the abortion limit, the article was called "THE LATEST THREAT TO WOMENS BODIES".
If you care about your body that much, get the contraceptive implant, use a condom with spermicide and maybe even go on the pill aswell (can be done).
Don't call a new life taking form (usually because of your own irresponsibility) a "threat to your body".
If you care about your body that much, get the contraceptive implant, use a condom with spermicide and maybe even go on the pill aswell (can be done).
Don't call a new life taking form (usually because of your own irresponsibility) a "threat to your body".
Original post by TealSoup
I personally didn't like or agree with a recent womens magazine article about lowering the abortion limit, the article was called "THE LATEST THREAT TO WOMENS BODIES".
If you care about your body that much, get the contraceptive implant, use a condom with spermicide and maybe even go on the pill aswell (can be done).
Don't call a new life taking form (usually because of your own irresponsibility) a "threat to your body".
If you care about your body that much, get the contraceptive implant, use a condom with spermicide and maybe even go on the pill aswell (can be done).
Don't call a new life taking form (usually because of your own irresponsibility) a "threat to your body".
Extremely presumptuous, and frankly incorrect. There are millions of reasons for abortions besides just 'irresponsibility'.
Original post by TealSoup
I personally didn't like or agree with a recent womens magazine article about lowering the abortion limit, the article was called "THE LATEST THREAT TO WOMENS BODIES".
If you care about your body that much, get the contraceptive implant, use a condom with spermicide and maybe even go on the pill aswell (can be done).
Don't call a new life taking form (usually because of your own irresponsibility) a "threat to your body".
If you care about your body that much, get the contraceptive implant, use a condom with spermicide and maybe even go on the pill aswell (can be done).
Don't call a new life taking form (usually because of your own irresponsibility) a "threat to your body".
I would think that they were referring to the act of creating restrictive legislation against abortion as the threat to womens bodies, as opposed to the actual fetus.
Original post by tazarooni89
What
Anything which is alive can be killed. Are you suggesting that unborn babies are not alive?
Anything which is alive can be killed. Are you suggesting that unborn babies are not alive?
it depends how you define a life; a still born child does not get a death certificate.
Original post by Rooster523
it depends how you define a life; a still born child does not get a death certificate.
Neither does a dog, but that doesn't change the fact that it is alive, and can potentially be killed.
I'm going with the usual definition of 'life' here - the engagement in metabolic processes such as respiration, nutrition, reaction to changes in environment etc. There might be variations of this, but it is very uncommon to define 'life' as the ability to receive a death certificate.
Original post by Amwazicles
40 weeks? You know that is full term for a baby? Are you saying a parent should be able to 'abort' their baby after it is born?
Well after the pregnancy its going to be the parents who are going to look after the baby unless the baby is adopted so it should be their choice if they want it.
Original post by nju
Well after the pregnancy its going to be the parents who are going to look after the baby unless the baby is adopted so it should be their choice if they want it.
Answer my question. Do you believe parents should be able to 'abort' their baby after it is born - yes or no?
Original post by Amwazicles
Answer my question. Do you believe parents should be able to 'abort' their baby after it is born - yes or no?
Technically while a baby is still in the womb it is not born regardless of how much it has developed and grown so yes you should be able to abort the foetus.
After the baby is born (out of the mother's womb) you cannot 'abort' a baby
ah so what, we've got far too many people in the world anyway.
Original post by stroppyninja
Yes, I think 24 weeks is a bit late, but you must consider some people have to have terminations due to serious medical reasons.
Also, is it better for an unwanted baby to be born into a life of abuse and misery than to never be born?
Also, is it better for an unwanted baby to be born into a life of abuse and misery than to never be born?
It is acceptable for medical reasons but that is probably like 1% of all cases. And no i disagree with it being better to kill a unwanted baby if their life is going to be amazing than it never to be born, because surely if their life was so bad they could choose to kill themselves rather than taking that choice away from them and never having a life, and also you can't just stereotype and say that all parents who choose abortion would give abuse and completely abandon the baby, as a lot of parents/single mums who think about abortion, but then not to choose their own baby's are amazing parents!!
Also don't understand at all, that you can kill a baby at 24 weeks in the womb and its perfectly exceptable, but if you kill a baby at 24 weeks outside the womb, you would go to jail for murder? inside the womb is just as bad!
Original post by nju
Technically while a baby is still in the womb it is not born regardless of how much it has developed and grown so yes you should be able to abort the foetus.
After the baby is born (out of the mother's womb) you cannot 'abort' a baby
After the baby is born (out of the mother's womb) you cannot 'abort' a baby
What about a baby which is born prematurely? It could be less developed than another newborn baby, and yet it is out of the womb. So it is 'born' or not?
Original post by Amwazicles
What about a baby which is born prematurely? It could be less developed than another newborn baby, and yet it is out of the womb. So it is 'born' or not?
Like I said before if the baby is out of a womb it is born
Original post by nju
Like I said before if the baby is out of a womb it is born
That's a ridiculous argument.
The day before it's due date, they can still abort the baby? Halfway through labour, before it's fully out? Once it's passed but the umbilical cord is still connected?Quick Reply
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