Have Gender and Sexual Identities gone too far?

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

My moggy is an asexual assasin.

When are you setting up the support group

Reply 43

ilem

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Original post by Big_Daymo

Wait, so are you pro made up genders or pro binary genders, because what you said isn’t really what the OP meant

I think the term 'gender' itself is a completely made, up, pointless concept that is synonymous to 'personality' and does not cover anything that isn't covered by the term 'personality'.

Honestly people can do what they want, it's harmless so idk why people care so much. I do think people get gender expression/personalities and fetishes confused but whatever floats your boat and all that. Doesnt concern me what people want to identify as

Reply 45

Bio 7

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Original post by ilem

You nailed it in the OP, there is absolutely no difference between gender and personality. This term was invented and is exclusively used by snowflakes looking to score higher in the oppression olympics.

That isn't what I meant, I agree with people that there are multiple genders but what I mean by too far is when people use personality as a gender as well.

Every small discrepancy in a personality does not constitute a new gender.

Reply 46

Big_Daymo

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Original post by ilem

I think the term 'gender' itself is a completely made, up, pointless concept that is synonymous to 'personality' and does not cover anything that isn't covered by the term 'personality'.

I guess you’re kinda right, but I think assorting people into groups based on sex is helpful in establishing gender roles (that’s not a bad thing) and to help differentiate the sexes, as both sexes have different needs and wants, generally speaking.

Yes too far

Original post by Bio 7

That isn't what I meant, I agree with people that there are multiple genders but what I mean by too far is when people use personality as a gender as well.

Every small discrepancy in a personality does not constitute a new gender.

Male and female genders are just as valid as the million additional tumblr genders, which is to say, not at all. People are either biologically male or female, with a whole spectrum of unique personalities that do not require a new term in order to be defined.

Original post by Big_Daymo

I guess you’re kinda right, but I think assorting people into groups based on sex is helpful in establishing gender roles (that’s not a bad thing) and to help differentiate the sexes, as both sexes have different needs and wants, generally speaking.

Well I completely agree with you, I very much agree that it is sometimes useful to differentiate between people based on their biological sex, not 'gender'.

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Reply 49

Original post by CoolCavy

Honestly people can do what they want, it's harmless so idk why people care so much. I do think people get gender expression/personalities and fetishes confused but whatever floats your boat and all that. Doesnt concern me what people want to identify as

Does it also not concern you when they demand rights based on this 'identity'? When they change language to assert this 'identity'? Language is a form of control and by changing it, controlling you really don't think it concerns you?

Original post by yudothis

Does it also not concern you when they demand rights based on this 'identity'? When they change language to assert this 'identity'? Language is a form of control and by changing it, controlling you really don't think it concerns you?

Not really, if someone wants to be called a certain pronoun even if i dont understand it i'll try my best to use it to make them more comfortable. Is just common decency tbh

Reply 51

Original post by CoolCavy

Not really, if someone wants to be called a certain pronoun even if i dont understand it i'll try my best to use it to make them more comfortable. Is just common decency tbh

That explains a lot. Sheep would not have a problem with compelled speech.

Reply 52

Original post by Retired_Messiah

Oh god how will I cope with the possibility of a woman privately ******** in a stall next to me

I'm p sure UK scouts have been ungendered for years to no issue

It should be perfectly acceptable that some women do not want to share a bathroom with men. For a data point, after Target introduced gender neutral dressing rooms, the incidents of sexual harassment exploded.

Do you feel comfortable knowing that it is in their guidelines to try and prevent parents from learning when a transgirl is put with girls? They are trying to hide the parents of girls to learn their daughter is sharing space with a boy (who at that part truly is a boy, other than feeling like a girl). Edit: since on this page no one ever believes anything, I can't find the original text, but here is an article that states: "At the same time, Guide leaders were discouraged from telling parents their daughters would be sharing facilities with transgender girls" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5117669/Girlguiding-issues-controversial-advice-trans-members.html

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Reply 53

Do people really disagree that gender is nothing but personality?

Reply 54

Retired_Messiah

Original post by yudothis

It should be perfectly acceptable that some women do not want to share a bathroom with men. For a data point, after Target introduced gender neutral dressing rooms, the incidents of sexual harassment exploded.

Do you feel comfortable knowing that it is in their guidelines to try and prevent parents from learning when a transgirl is put with girls? They are trying to hide the parents of girls to learn their daughter is sharing space with a boy (who at that part truly is a boy, other than feeling like a girl). Edit: since on this page no one ever believes anything, I can't find the original text, but here is an article that states: "At the same time, Guide leaders were discouraged from telling parents their daughters would be sharing facilities with transgender girls" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5117669/Girlguiding-issues-controversial-advice-trans-members.html

I think bathroom debates either way are a bit of a waste of time. I'd be fine keeping them gendered as they are, but if people build gender neutral loos I don't particularly care about that either. It is just pooping, at the end of the day. Suppose the fix to help the uncomfortable would be to have all 3 available at once. I'm not sure how comparable a dressing room is to a bathroom, given the getting dressed element.

I can understand why parents would possibly be uncomfortable with the scenario you've given there, but at the same time I'm not exactly sure what harm a boi who believes they are a girl in a place full of girls would actually do. It's quite surprising that was in their guidance.

Original post by Big_Daymo

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/24/sweden-adds-gender-neutral-pronoun-to-dictionary

https://torontolife.com/city/u-t-professor-sparked-vicious-battle-gender-neutral-pronouns/

It’s not me that’s confused.

'can be used' doesn't sound like it's being forced on anyone really mate.

Reply 55

Original post by Retired_Messiah

I think bathroom debates either way are a bit of a waste of time. I'd be fine keeping them gendered as they are, but if people build gender neutral loos I don't particularly care about that either. It is just pooping, at the end of the day. Suppose the fix to help the uncomfortable would be to have all 3 available at once. I'm not sure how comparable a dressing room is to a bathroom, given the getting dressed element.

I can understand why parents would possibly be uncomfortable with the scenario you've given there, but at the same time I'm not exactly sure what harm a boi who believes they are a girl in a place full of girls would actually do. It's quite surprising that was in their guidance.

'can be used' doesn't sound like it's being forced on anyone really mate.

Pretty sure that girls would be very uncomfortable around penis. Not to mention it normalized penis in women’s spaces. You might find that trivial, but for many girls and women it isn’t.

Reply 56

Retired_Messiah