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Do you think men and women will ever be treated and seen as completely equal
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No probably not. There will always be prejudices which favour both genders, male and female.
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Probably not, men have the inherent advantage over women by being the majority sex in political and economic power and likely will use that power to continue the culture of male dominance
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We need a revolution!
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Although not long ago that might have seemed unlikely, having any women in political power so having crossed that big barrier maybe in a while it’ll even out a lot more
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In Britain/USA most Western countries women have 5 legal rights that men do not have also UN report found that life was worst boys/men in America than for girls/women.

Women have the right to genital integrity
Women have the right to vote without agreeing to die (or conscriptional immunity,)
Women have the right to choose parenthood
Women have the right to be assumed (competent) caregivers for children
Women have the right to call unwanted, coerced sex rape

However, there are at least 7 more legal rights women have, that men don't (varying by Western country):


Women have the right to lower jail sentences for the same crime US, Australia, UK
Women have the right to not be assumed sexual predators British Airways, Qantas, Air New Zealand, Virgin Australia
Women have the right to government departments that solely serve their interests Office on Violence Against Women - US, Ministry for Women - New Zealand, Office for Women - Australia
Women have the right to government-enforced gender quotas Leadership positions in publicly traded companies - Norway, Legislated quotas in national parliaments - Belgium, France, Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal
Women have the right to exclusive tax benefits for being a business owner US, Australia
Women have the right to domestic violence shelters US, Canada, Europe
Women have the right to not be assumed the primary agressor in a domestic dispute US, UK
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(Original post by looloo2134)
In Britain/USA most Western countries women have 5 legal rights that men do not have also UN report found that life was worst boys/men in America than for girls/women.

Women have the right to genital integrity
Women have the right to vote without agreeing to die (or conscriptional immunity,)
Women have the right to choose parenthood
Women have the right to be assumed (competent) caregivers for children
Women have the right to call unwanted, coerced sex rape

However, there are at least 7 more legal rights women have, that men don't (varying by Western country):


Women have the right to lower jail sentences for the same crime US, Australia, UK
Women have the right to not be assumed sexual predators British Airways, Qantas, Air New Zealand, Virgin Australia
Women have the right to government departments that solely serve their interests Office on Violence Against Women - US, Ministry for Women - New Zealand, Office for Women - Australia
Women have the right to government-enforced gender quotas Leadership positions in publicly traded companies - Norway, Legislated quotas in national parliaments - Belgium, France, Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal
Women have the right to exclusive tax benefits for being a business owner US, Australia
Women have the right to domestic violence shelters US, Canada, Europe
Women have the right to not be assumed the primary agressor in a domestic dispute US, UK
Proof? If those things were as you say that would be a direct violation of the Equality Act 2010

(Only applies in the UK obviously)
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Nope sadly, even in 5000 years men and women will never be 100% equal, that is biologically speaking. Socially speaking (Same rights, same pay etc..) yes they will be seen equal
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(Original post by looloo2134)
In Britain/USA most Western countries women have 5 legal rights that men do not have also UN report found that life was worst boys/men in America than for girls/women.

Women have the right to genital integrity
Women have the right to vote without agreeing to die (or conscriptional immunity,)
Women have the right to choose parenthood
Women have the right to be assumed (competent) caregivers for children
Women have the right to call unwanted, coerced sex rape

However, there are at least 7 more legal rights women have, that men don't (varying by Western country):


Women have the right to lower jail sentences for the same crime US, Australia, UK
Women have the right to not be assumed sexual predators British Airways, Qantas, Air New Zealand, Virgin Australia
Women have the right to government departments that solely serve their interests Office on Violence Against Women - US, Ministry for Women - New Zealand, Office for Women - Australia
Women have the right to government-enforced gender quotas Leadership positions in publicly traded companies - Norway, Legislated quotas in national parliaments - Belgium, France, Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal
Women have the right to exclusive tax benefits for being a business owner US, Australia
Women have the right to domestic violence shelters US, Canada, Europe
Women have the right to not be assumed the primary agressor in a domestic dispute US, UK
The vast majority of law makers and people in power are men anyway; you should blame them if men don’t have things that women have
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https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-blo...that-men-dont/
Also female criminals get lower sentence for same crime as male criminals it not a right but it still happen.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/men-w...-gap_n_1874742
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(Original post by looloo2134)
https://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-blo...that-men-dont/
Also female criminals get lower sentence for same crime as male criminals it not a right but it still happen.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/men-w...-gap_n_1874742
The vast majority of judges are male; this is not the fault of women
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(Original post by looloo2134)
In Britain/USA most Western countries women have 5 legal rights that men do not have also UN report found that life was worst boys/men in America than for girls/women.

Women have the right to genital integrity
Women have the right to vote without agreeing to die (or conscriptional immunity,)
Women have the right to choose parenthood
Women have the right to be assumed (competent) caregivers for children
Women have the right to call unwanted, coerced sex rape

However, there are at least 7 more legal rights women have, that men don't (varying by Western country):


Women have the right to lower jail sentences for the same crime US, Australia, UK
Women have the right to not be assumed sexual predators British Airways, Qantas, Air New Zealand, Virgin Australia
Women have the right to government departments that solely serve their interests Office on Violence Against Women - US, Ministry for Women - New Zealand, Office for Women - Australia
Women have the right to government-enforced gender quotas Leadership positions in publicly traded companies - Norway, Legislated quotas in national parliaments - Belgium, France, Greece, Ireland, Spain, Portugal
Women have the right to exclusive tax benefits for being a business owner US, Australia
Women have the right to domestic violence shelters US, Canada, Europe
Women have the right to not be assumed the primary agressor in a domestic dispute US, UK
Legal equality doesn’t always mean actual equality - societal views on women are at times still negative, views on gender roles like the idea that women should stay home are still present, etc.

Thats not to say we haven’t made great strides in hopes to reach equality, and hopefully we make further legal reforms in favor of women and that we don’t leave out men (for example, it’s important to acknowledge that even though women are more likely to be sexually assaulted or abused, men still can be victimized and it’s an ongoing issue that not many speak up about) in the process.
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Nope sadly, even in 5000 years men and women will never be 100% equal, that is biologically speaking. Socially speaking (Same rights, same pay etc..) yes they will be seen equal
True - it's really sad that men can never give birth.
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(Original post by Aaryra)
Legal equality doesn’t always mean actual equality - societal views on women are at times still negative, views on gender roles like the idea that women should stay home are still present, etc.

Thats not to say we haven’t made great strides in hopes to reach equality, and hopefully we make further legal reforms in favor of women and that we don’t leave out men (for example, it’s important to acknowledge that even though women are more likely to be sexually assaulted or abused, men still can be victimized and it’s an ongoing issue that not many speak up about) in the process.
There are no safe houses for male victims of DV in London went they make around 45% of victim nationally.
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It truth that male judges give lower sentences females than males for the same crime. Mostly it because females can look better than males and judges can't believe that she could do such a nasty crime. Female judges give harsh sentences to female criminals but they on average give women/girls lower sentence than males.
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There are no safe houses for male victims of DV in London went they make around 45% of victim nationally.
I’m aware of such inequalities. I admitted this, things like the stigma around mental illness among men are so disgusting, suicide among men is high and no one seems to talk about that issue. I get it, problems like telling a guy to ‘man’ up aren’t fair and we should focus on them too. We focus on women more because women have tended to be the oppressed and men the oppressors in the past, but it’s all changing and it’s sad that men aren’t getting the help they need.
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(Original post by looloo2134)
It truth that male judges give lower sentences females than males for the same crime. Mostly it because females can look better than males and judges can't believe that she could do such a nasty crime. Female judges give harsh sentences to female criminals but they on average give women/girls lower sentence than males.
So why are you bringing this up as if it’s something women can do anything about? If you have any problem with the way men are treated compared to females then complain the males that run this country and have power to do something about it
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