Film Fanatics - Chat Thread II

There's a Roger Ebert greatest movie app for the iPhone. :awesome:

*grabs phone*

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zjs

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Original post by Phalanges

That will never happen, because the shapes the mouth makes when speaking a sentence in different languages are completely different.

I wrote an article about subtitles recently, if anyone's interested: http://www.24framespersecond.co.uk/post/6111632234/subtitles

Shameless blog plug, much? :pierre:

I don't think it's likely to ever be a possibility, in fact it may be patently very unlikely. The "when" was more of an "if". I accept that you're saying it's pretty much a logical impossibility, but I wouldn't put it past filmmakers of the future to start investing bigger budgets into dubbing at some point, at which time CGI warping of the mouth to suit the English translation might be explored and implemented, as one possible example. :moon:

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Phalanges

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Original post by zjs

Shameless blog plug, much? :pierre:

I don't think it's likely to ever be a possibility, in fact it may be patently very unlikely. The "when" was more of an "if". I accept that you're saying it's pretty much a logical impossibility, but I wouldn't put it past filmmakers of the future to start investing bigger budgets into dubbing at some point, at which time CGI warping of the mouth to suit the English translation might be explored and implemented, as one possible example. :moon:

Well it was on this exact topic, so I figured it was better than just copy-pasting. :p:

I would suggest that to get CGI of the quality where it didn't look even more off-putting would never be financially viable, especially considering that the type of films requiring this technology are likely to be independent foreign releases with a relatively small audience.

Dubbing is just awful though, it rips out the artistic integrity of a film.

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Reminds me of the old Japanese cartoons that had the mouths of the cartoon character replaced with that of an actor that could speak English. A good example is in Pulp Fiction. :pierre:

Reply 2445

Original post by zjs

Well, it's the same as voice actors in animated films, really. Some are extremely good at portraying emotion and mould themselves into the character. Obviously, this is more difficult when you're doing a voice over for a real person, rather than an animation of a character that can be adapted and is, most likely, based on you to some extent in the first place.

Jennifer Hale could do it :love:

Original post by Phalanges

That will never happen, because the shapes the mouth makes when speaking a sentence in different languages are completely different.

I wrote an article about subtitles recently, if anyone's interested: http://www.24framespersecond.co.uk/post/6111632234/subtitles

I read it already :fyi:

You're on my Google Reader :h:

Reply 2446

aja89

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I can't stand dubbed live action films, but for some reason I prefer foreign animated films to be dubbed rather than have subtitles. :dontknow:

Reply 2447

ahq

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I'm not a huge fan of subtitles in general (I sometimes find they distract from the acting/other visual elements when there's a lot of dialogue) but I strongly, strongly prefer them to dubbing.

Anyway, I think I'll give a movie a re-watch today. Currently leaning towards No Country for Old Men.

Reply 2448

Phalanges

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Original post by Jace Falco

I read it already :fyi:

You're on my Google Reader :h:

I'm not going to lie, that makes me feel cool. :p:

I set up a google reader account yesterday.

Reply 2449

Original post by Jace Falco

Jennifer Hale could do it :love:

I read it already :fyi:

You're on my Google Reader :h:

No more MGS. :nopity:

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Original post by Madjackismad

No more MGS. :nopity:

Metal Gear Solid? Never played them.

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Original post by Jace Falco

Metal Gear Solid? Never played them.

She's pretty famous for her role in the games. :p:

Reply 2452

Original post by Madjackismad

She's pretty famous for her role in the games. :p:

She's Bastila, and she's Commander Shepard. That's enough without anything else.

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Original post by Jace Falco

She's Bastila, and she's Commander Shepard. That's enough without anything else.

Metal Gear Solid comes before them, bro. :pierre:

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Original post by Madjackismad

Metal Gear Solid comes before them, bro. :pierre:

Nothing comes before ME and KotOR :pierre:

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Original post by Jace Falco

Nothing comes before ME and KotOR :pierre:

We probably wouldn't have those games if MGS never came out for the PS1. :pierre:

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Original post by Madjackismad

We probably wouldn't have those games if MGS never came out for the PS1. :pierre:

And we wouldn't have any of them without Pong, Pac Man, Doom and Duke Nukem, but that doesn't mean those games are better.

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Original post by Jace Falco

And we wouldn't have any of them without Pong, Pac Man, Doom and Duke Nukem, but that doesn't mean those games are better.

Duke Nukem 3D and MGS pretty much lead the surge in development of 3D, cinematic games. Metal Gear Solid is one of the first true cinematic video games to come out and you can agree that Mass Effect is pretty cinematic. :p:

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