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Can you make massive money in investment banking?

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Original post by Elchapojr
They probably buy nice cars, and houses in London are really expensive. They probably invest some of it in stuff like rental properties to provide a stable side income, since they could get fired easily


Original post by serions871
Same, if I become a banker I dont know what I'm actually gonna do with the money aha


You guys would be surprised, the money doesn't actually go as far as you'd expect after rent, national insurance, tax, student loan repayments, pension deductions etc. Also it's difficult to buy a decent property in and around London due to the extreme house prices without a massive deposit.

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Original post by Commercial Paper
You guys would be surprised, the money doesn't actually go as far as you'd expect after rent, national insurance, tax, student loan repayments etc. Also it's difficult to buy a decent property in and around London due to the extreme house prices without a massive deposit.

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Compared to living on an average salary, I imagine you'd struggle a lot less
I mean, you can buy a terraced house in a suburb with that money, and have a good car, that's good enough really
Original post by Commercial Paper
You guys would be surprised, the money doesn't actually go as far as you'd expect after rent, national insurance, tax, student loan repayments etc. Also it's difficult to buy a decent property in and around London due to the extreme house prices without a massive deposit.

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Totally agree with this. The public view of what it means to work at a bank is very inflated in terms of glamour and salary. London prices are very high and after taxes and other expenses, you're not left eith ridiculous amounts.

Having said that, this depends on your rank level and the more senior you are and depending on what role you have at the company there is the potential to make a lot of money. But it's not as much as people assume!

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Original post by serions871
Same, if I become a banker I dont know what I'm actually gonna do with the money aha


I don't know how to cope with my expenses if I don't become a banker...

It's great money for a young person, but nowhere near the "don't know how to spend it" level. Examples: watches (a 10k watch isn't even considered a truly expensive one), clothes, life in general (rent in London, dining, etc) and then you have more meaningful ones such as boat, car, house... 80K (before taxes) is not "f***-you money".
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Original post by Elchapojr
Compared to living on an average salary, I imagine you'd struggle a lot less
I mean, you can buy a terraced house in a suburb with that money, and have a good car, that's good enough really


Not for everyone...
Original post by usualsuspects
I don't know how to cope with my expenses if I don't become a banker...

It's great money for a young person, but nowhere near the "don't know how to spend it" level. Examples: watches (a 10k watch isn't even considered a truly expensive one), clothes, life in general (rent in London, dining, etc) and then you have more meaningful ones such as boat, car, house... 80K (before taxes) is not "f***-you money".


"...£10k watch isn't even considered a truly expensive one..."

"...more meaningful ones such as boat.."

U wot

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Original post by usualsuspects
I don't know how to cope with my expenses if I don't become a banker...

It's great money for a young person, but nowhere near the "don't know how to spend it" level. Examples: watches (a 10k watch isn't even considered a truly expensive one), clothes, life in general (rent in London, dining, etc) and then you have more meaningful ones such as boat, car, house... 80K (before taxes) is not "f***-you money".

This is kind of an entitled attitude, a banker or trader earns more than like 95% of people their age. I don't think most of them have £10,000 watches or a boat and they probably don't want to. You shouldn't expect to have these things when you're in your mid twenties.

Compared to 99.9% of people on the planet, you have a pay package that unbelievable if you're earning £60000 as an accountant in your thirties and have a house and a car.
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Original post by Reformed
yes but its not as rewarding as baking your own cakes and selling them for profit


Investment baking
Original post by Elchapojr
Compared to living on an average salary, I imagine you'd struggle a lot less
I mean, you can buy a terraced house in a suburb with that money, and have a good car, that's good enough really


Yes but as a banker you have to live close to the office due to the excessive hours, at least in your junior years. You could never move further out into the suburb, especially with Southern Rail at the moment.

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Original post by Princepieman
"...£10k watch isn't even considered a truly expensive one..."

"...more meaningful ones such as boat.."

U wot

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First one is a fact.
Was just providing examples of how to spend money and of things you can't get on an analyst's salary and must save towards. (Well, there was an article on The Economist about sharing economy for "luxuries", like boat sharing for who doesn't own one).
Original post by usualsuspects
First one is a fact.
Was just providing examples of how to spend money and of things you can't get on an analyst's salary and must save towards. (Well, there was an article on The Economist about sharing economy for "luxuries", like boat sharing for who doesn't own one).


I've got a £5 watch from a market stall in East London, £10k is truly expensive, trust me
Original post by usualsuspects
First one is a fact.
Was just providing examples of how to spend money and of things you can't get on an analyst's salary and must save towards. (Well, there was an article on The Economist about sharing economy for "luxuries", like boat sharing for who doesn't own one).


Original post by Trapz99
I've got a £5 watch from a market stall in East London, £10k is truly expensive, trust me


I don't even wear a watch. What's the point?

You don't really need one unless you're a mid-level or above banker.

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Original post by Trapz99
This is kind of an entitled attitude, a banker or trader earns more than like 95% of people their age. I don't think most of them have £10,000 watches or a boat and they probably don't want to. You shouldn't expect to have these things when you're in your mid twenties.

Compared to 99.9% of people on the planet, you have a pay package that unbelievable if you're earning £60000 as an accountant in your thirties and have a house and a car.


I am not planning to buy a boat in my twenties, nor a watch above 10k, but I will have other expenses to cover what remains from that 70-80K.
Original post by Commercial Paper
I don't even wear a watch. What's the point?

You don't really need one unless you're a mid-level or above banker.

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Not sure it's up to me to explain what the point of watches is... I have one. But they do get in the way with the keyboard, that's true.

Original post by Trapz99
I've got a £5 watch from a market stall in East London, £10k is truly expensive, trust me

It's expensive, but watch fans wouldn't class it among the really really expensive watches.
Original post by Commercial Paper
You guys would be surprised, the money doesn't actually go as far as you'd expect after rent, national insurance, tax, student loan repayments, pension deductions etc. Also it's difficult to buy a decent property in and around London due to the extreme house prices without a massive deposit.

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Original post by Commercial Paper
You guys would be surprised, the money doesn't actually go as far as you'd expect after rent, national insurance, tax, student loan repayments, pension deductions etc. Also it's difficult to buy a decent property in and around London due to the extreme house prices without a massive deposit.

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When there are people living on £30k in London, I'm pretty sure £100k can give you a similar lifestyle. You can buy a good two bedroom flat for around £500k, around £2500 a month.
Original post by serions871
When there are people living on £30k in London, I'm pretty sure £100k can give you a similar lifestyle. You can buy a good two bedroom flat for around £500k, around £2500 a month.


I'm sure people do live on less but it's not a race to the bottom. There is an irony in your post that, if you're in the top 3% of earners in the UK, the best you can do is a two bedroom flat? You're correct, of course, but people here make out like you'll be living the high life in a playboy mansion with models and bottles whereas the reality is, yes - you'll be living in a cramped two bedroom flat.
Original post by Lay-Z
I'd rather have a life though, you can earn similar in the public sector after a few more years and have much better work life balance


public sector salaries don't match up in the slightest
Original post by Lay-Z
After 10-15 years in senior positions you'd be surprised


Tell me about these public sector jobs with high six to seven figure potential comp figures after 10-15 years

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It's also a dangerous job.
An intern died a few years back due to a epileptic seizure because he did 3 all nighters.

Not cool man.
Original post by Commercial Paper
I'm sure people do live on less but it's not a race to the bottom. There is an irony in your post that, if you're in the top 3% of earners in the UK, the best you can do is a two bedroom flat? You're correct, of course, but people here make out like you'll be living the high life in a playboy mansion with models and bottles whereas the reality is, yes - you'll be living in a cramped two bedroom flat.

It's basically what I meant: in absolute terms, we are not talking about absurd money, as Analysts (it's a lot compared to average incomes though). I think they don't lack ways to spend what they earn.
There is even an expression, something like high earners not yet rich. It's still a good lifestyle, financially (you can afford the bottles if you're into that).

Original post by Lay-Z
I'd rather have a life though, you can earn similar in the public sector after a few more years and have much better work life balance


But also in IB pay increases with seniority, and the hours also get better. Anyways, it's not just the pay, but also, to a certain degree, the prestige, the sense of achievement, etc. Plus some really like finance and IB per se.

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