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Solving equation using logarithms?

3^t+1 = 6 + 3^2t-1

I just guessed on a calculator and it was 1.
The answer is, how?
Reply 1
Just to clarify, is your equation:

3t+1=6+32t1 3^{t+1} = 6 + 3^{2t-1} ?

If it is then note:

(am)n=amn, (a^{m})^{n} = a^{mn},

as well as: (am)(an)=am+n (a^{m})(a^{n}) = a^{m+n} and (am)(an)=amn. (a^{m})(a^{-n}) = a^{m-n}.

Can you let let: y=3t, y = 3^{t},

then re-write your original equation to reveal a familiar type of equation?
(edited 6 years ago)
Reply 2
Original post by simon0
Just to clarify, is your equation:

3t+1=6+32t1 3^{t+1} = 6 + 3^{2t-1} ?


Yes
Nvm. Much more complicated method which I said and wont work always.

do what poster above said.
(edited 6 years ago)
Reply 4
Just to clarify, I had re-written my post above to include a method.
Reply 5
Original post by y.u.mad.bro?
Start off by taking log of both side. What do you get?


ln [3^(t+1)] - ln [3^(2t-1)] = 6
ln [3^(t+1) / 3^(2t-1)] =6
Original post by Sakura-Sama
ln [3^(t+1)] - ln [3^(2t-1)] = 6
ln [3^(t+1) / 3^(2t-1)] =6


Sorry, I thought it wa easier to use logs but it actually isn't. You are better off realising that it is a disguised quadratic.
Reply 7
Original post by Sakura-Sama
ln [3^(t+1)] - ln [3^(2t-1)] = 6
ln [3^(t+1) / 3^(2t-1)] =6


Note, generally:

log(a+b)log(a)+log(b), \log(a+b) \neq \log(a) + \log(b), where a,bR a, b \in \mathbb{R} .
(edited 6 years ago)
I tried working this out as well but I can't seem to get to the solution? :frown:
it is a disguised quadratic... but you need an extra step than in typical examples. you need to split the 3{2t -1} so the 3{2t } appears without the -1
Reply 10
Original post by user20167
I tried working this out as well but I can't seem to get to the solution? :frown:



What if I stated:

3t+1=3(3t), 3^{t+1} = 3(3^{t}), and 32t1=(31)(32t). 3^{2t-1} = (3^{-1})(3^{2t}).

Does this help?
I got the quadratic equation 1/3y^2 + 6 -3y=0
is this right?
Reply 12
Original post by user20167
I got the quadratic equation 1/3y^2 + 6 -3y=0
is this right?


Looks good, can you finish it off?
Original post by simon0
Looks good, can you finish it off?


I get the solutions 3 and 6 which don't work when put back into the equation though
Reply 14
Original post by user20167
I get the solutions 3 and 6 which don't work when put back into the equation though


Remember your substitution. What was "y"?
Original post by simon0
Remember your substitution. What was "y"?


1.63 and 1 are the solutions
Reply 16
Original post by user20167
1.63 and 1 are the solutions


Looks good.

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