Kanye West

Original post by zhog

Bah, he was just speaking his mind free from the type of constraints that make most people in this world have to watch everything they say in public.

Original post by anarchism101

Constraints like common sense?

I read a couple good tweets on this phenomon today so I'll just quote them.

"As a culture, we place so much emphasis on the importance of thinking for yourself & your right to your own opinions; too little on informing yourself & your duty to assess facts. Hence Kanye. Hence Trump. Hence Brexit. Hence millions of proud doinks on the internet."

https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/991585740579573760

"We are living in a culture that perpetuates the idea that our basest, most instinctive responses are themselves special, unique and meaningful, somehow ‘pure’ because they are unaffected by study or external influence."

https://twitter.com/Sonic_Screwup/status/991708962419609600

"Free thinking" has become synonymous with "gut feeling". To be a free thinker is to say what first comes into your head without giving it any further thought. Opinions formed from base instincts alone are pure and untainted by outside forces such as other poeple's point of view or that thing called evidence. Any quick google of black struggles against slavery would throw up many examples that contradict Kanye's statement. Rationalist free thinking lead to the development of processes like peer review, which are designed to really rince an idea and put it through a gauntlet of criticism, it is taken as granted that human ideas need to be tested against the reality of the objective world. This is now looked upon with suspicion by much of the population.

There is nothing to commend about this so called free thinking. It's just proud ignorance shouted very loudly. It toutamount to saying poeple shoud respect your feelings and not question them, which is ironic as this is what this dumb unthinking section of the right accuses the left of constantly.

I don;t knwo whether this is really anything new or is being made worse by the internet and post industrial societies. I've read that industrialisation forced humans to become more rational, as if you work in a factory you have to deal with cold hard facts to make your factory work. Now more more of us spend most of our time dealing with more ethereal things and less time with hard logical process, combined with the internet that lets humans literally spread ideas at the speed of light, we are about to enter another age where supersition reigns. It will only get worse. As more and more of the physical aspects of economic life is abstracted away to automisation and is less of a concern for an ever increasing proportion of the population that plays no part of physical production, or even information production (AI can do that as well) we really will start return to medieval type thinking. Enlightenment and rationality was a blip.

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Reply 25

Tommy123Hull

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His music’s shite it keeps me up all night...

That was a reference to an Oasis lyric, who are better than anything he’s ever done!

Reply 26

Jebedee

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I recommend watching the extended version of his slavery rant. Not that edited rubbish they showed on TV that took out 90% of his points.

Reply 27

He loves the way Candace Owens thinks and all!

i like her too, black americans can't be owned by the Democrats.

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Napp

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Original post by zhog

Bah, he was just speaking his mind free from the type of constraints that make most people in this world have to watch everything they say in public. Being a black Trump supporter these days is one of the hardest gigs on earth, respect to him for standing up and be counted. It could be that he didn't know what was coming but all that dragon energy would have prevailed and he would have spoken his mind anyway, in the absence of his manager to restrain him.

I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not?

Reply 29

Just my opinion

Original post by zhog

He loves the way Candace Owens thinks and all!

i like her too, black americans can't be owned by the Democrats.

Funny enough Democrats used to own millions of them.
Hence the post Trump election popular T shirts saying. ...." Democrats....I haven't seen them this angry since we took their slaves off them!"

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Reply 30

Original post by Napp

I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not?

Not really.

Reply 31

Napp

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Original post by zhog

Not really.

Oh dear.

Reply 32

Original post by Just my opinion

Funny enough Democrats used to own millions of them.
Hence the post Trump election popular T shirts saying. ...." Democrats....I haven't seen them this angry since we took their slaves off them!"

They still claim some form of ownership when they proclaim themselves as the 'party for the black people', don't they? How can anyone black vote Trump, they have to be Uncle Toms or white inside. Just as with the election, there has to be something extraordinary and sort of paranormal to explain 'what went wrong'.

Reply 33

Just my opinion

This is what West was essentially speaking about.

Reply 34

Betelgeuse-

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Back when gucci was the sh it to rock, back when slick rick had the sh it to pop
I'd do anything to say i got it

Reply 35

gabeward160700

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I imlpore people to watch his 1 hr 45 min interview , Ye is a man that speaks truth and I believe that is why he likes Trump. To be able to respect someone but not agree is different,Has he for one minute claimed he agrees with his policies? No , he simply respects the way his truth incited a revolution. It is also laughable that we attack a mans views but we are the people that provide him with the pedestal to do so.We need to not live in an age where we aggrevsily pursue a persons musings of oppositional thought , it is toxic.

Reply 36

Original post by gabeward160700

We need to not live in an age where we aggrevsily pursue a persons musings of oppositional thought , it is toxic.

But we do, thanks to the people who feel we need to. The Trumpophobes are doing somersaults because a black man has said he likes Trump, that is 'unacceptable' these days to all 'right-thinking' people.

It's not the first time in history, it is a perpetual struggle between the totalitarian minds and the rest. They do take the p**s by trying to convince the vulnerable that Trump is a fascist, though.

Reply 37

Just my opinion