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The question is "given that x=sec4y, a) find dy/dx in terms of y, b) show that dy/dx = k/x(sqrt(x^2 - 1))" but I got dy/dx = 4xsqrt(x^2 - 1) and don't really know what I did wrong.
Reply 1
What steps did you take?


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Reply 2
Original post by I'm God
What steps did you take?


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No idea what the answer is. I wrote it as 4sec4y*sqrt(sec^2(4y)-1) which gives what I said in the first post you substitute in x for sec4y.
Reply 3
Original post by RHI11
No idea what the answer is. I wrote it as 4sec4y*sqrt(sec^2(4y)-1) which gives what I said in the first post you substitute in x for sec4y.


Oh I see. I did it using quotient rule.
How do you know you are wrong?
Reply 4
Original post by I'm God
Oh I see. I did it using quotient rule.
How do you know you are wrong?

b) show that dy/dx = k/x(sqrt(x^2 - 1))



My answer isn't in that form.
Reply 5
Original post by RHI11
My answer isn't in that form.


When you started, you did dx/dy, so did you flip the fraction to get dy/dx?
Reply 6
Original post by I'm God
When you started, you did dx/dy, so did you flip the fraction to get dy/dx?


Lol I'm an idiot thanks
Reply 7
Original post by RHI11
Lol I'm an idiot thanks


It's okay, I got it wrong, so now I need to figure out where :biggrin:
Reply 8
Does anyone know the paper that this question is from?? If so please can u send it to me
Does anyone know the answer to this for a or b ?

I differentiated part a. and got 1/4(sec4y)(tan4y) ?
Reply 10
why a 1/4 surly 4sec4ytan4y
Original post by annonymous2394
Does anyone know the answer to this for a or b ?

I differentiated part a. and got 1/4(sec4y)(tan4y) ?

x = (cos4y) ^ -1

Using chain rule, differentiate x w.r.t y

dx/dy = 4 * ((sec4y) ^ 2) * (sin4y)

using dy/dx = 1 / (dx/dy)

dy/dx = 1 / ( 4 * ((sec4y) ^ 2) * (sin4y) )

subs

dy/dx = (1/4) * (1 / ( (x)^2 * sqrt ( 1 - (1/x)^2 ) )

= k / (x * sqrt ( x^2 - 1) ), where k = 1/4

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