Very Sobering Tribute To Our Troops

Bobifier

Okay, so, what do our forces do that is so heroic for us?

In my humble opinion, defusing road-side bombs is heroic. That takes ******* balls. The ones that are defused often ensure that little kids don't blow themselves up when playing. I massively respect anyone who dies whilst trying to defuse one of those.

Reply 62

hootandroar

Aeolus

It's also full of delusional chickenhawks who think just because they support the armed forces, they can comment and be condescending to those who don't as if they themselves were serving.

I am serving myself...

Reply 63

Aeolus

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hootandroar

I am serving myself...

Well done?..... :lolwut:

Reply 64

mahaneap

13

Right>Left

scumbag

*Person with views different to my own.

Reply 65

mahaneap

They shouldn't have joined the army if they didn't want to die.

Agreed (again)

Reply 66

Cesare Borgia

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donuticus

Mawkish sentimentality of the highest order.

Agreed, what happened to the stiff upper lip? ******* Diana.

BTW I support the British forces just as much as the next man, if not more, and am fiercely nationalistic so if you think I'm a bleeding heart liberal you can **** off.

Reply 67

Kreuzuerk

Diaz89

Agreed (again)

Paying tribute to someone's death is not correspondent to how dangerous the job they performed was.

Reply 68

Diaz89

Agreed (again)

So if you get hit by a car, no one should care?

I mean you take the risk, loads of people get hit by cars.

Reply 69

Rucklo

So if you get hit by a car, no one should care?

I mean you take the risk, loads of people get hit by cars.

Those are two completely different things.

Reply 70

Kreuzuerk

Paying tribute to someone's death is not correspondent to how dangerous the job they performed was.

I don't think that was his point....

Reply 71

Diaz89

Those are two completely different things.

No there not according to you.

Reply 72

Rucklo

No there not according to you.

Driving a car to central London is much safer than engaging in a firefight with the Taliban, hence 2 different things.

Reply 73

Kreuzuerk

Diaz89

I don't think that was his point....

Do you have a beard, out of interest?

Reply 74

Diaz89

Driving a car to central London is much safer than engaging in a firefight with the Taliban, hence 2 different things.

Only about 8 times.

And the point still stands that according to you, if you take a risk then its your own fault if you die.

So it still stands.

Reply 75

Kreuzuerk

Do you have a beard, out of interest?

No I have stubble and I actually shaved it today, but why is that relevant :beard:

Reply 76

orionmoo

15

Soldiers aren't hero's. Soldiers commit state-sanctioned murder against fellow human beings. Soldiers are merely tools used by the rich to become richer and defend their wealth. I have great respect for the troops that die, but I have no sympathy when the families complain as their children knew the risks when they signed up, and could quite have easily have not signed up.
The true hero's are those that save lives, doctors and nurses, including ones that go in to war zones (whether they're part of the military or not), or even ones that indirectly save lives by inventing new medicines and charging a fair price for them, or other scientists doing research, or those finding new ways to cut crime in the country.
This, however, does not including killing one to save another, except in the case of self defence. However attacking another country is not self defence, and whilst soldiers do not have a choice which wars they wish to fight, they ultimately have the choice whether to be a solider.
I respect soldiers for putting their life on the line, but I would never commend them for killing another human being unless their life was personally targeted.

Wars make money. Wars are good for the economy. Whether it's over oil or merely to boost industries producing planes and ships and ammunition, all wars seem to be used for, since the turn of the last century (if not before) is to make money for the governments in the world. Why, for instance, where British bombers in WW2 given orders not to bomb German ammunition factories, and why were historic buildings in the UK not bombed, and mainly the common-folks housing?

Reply 77

Rucklo

Only about 8 times.

And the point still stands that according to you, if you take a risk then its your own fault if you die.

So it still stands.

If you take the risk then yes, you bear the responsibility and as I stated, going into a firefight is a completely different thing than driving so your example is a useless.

Reply 78

Diaz89

If you take the risk then yes, you bear the responsibility and as I stated, going into a firefight is a completely different thing than driving so your example is a useless.

No it's not, there is a genuine risk you will crash over your life.

Reply 79

Enchanté