i'm really stuck on this equation plz plz plzzzzzz help me its driving me crazy am totaly stuck
with the presence of hydrogen ions, propanone and iodine react according to the following equation.
I2 + CH3COCH3 = CH2ICOCH3 + HI
following results obtained
Exp. [CH3COCH3] [H+] [I2] Initial rate
1 1.25 0.1 0.01 3.5 x 10-4
2 1.25 0.2 0.01 7.0 x 10-4
3 1.5 0.2 0.01 8.4 x 10-4
4 1.5 0.1 0.02 4.2 x 10-4
i'm really sorry this isnt clear but i cant do a table arrgghh
find giving reason the order of reaction with respect to propanone, hydrogen ions and iodine and hence the overall order.
well i've found that the order of propanoone and hydrogen ions are both 1 but i dont get how to do iodine. plz ne help?
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Last edited by urban_flavaz; 13-04-2006 at 19:49.
- 13-04-2006 19:45
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- 13-04-2006 20:04
Don't see how you can do that as that info doesn't keep the other two concentrations the same as the I2 changes...
- 13-04-2006 20:11
Compare 1 & 2...than 2 & 3...and finally 3 & 4.
[CH3COCH3] = A
[H+] = B
[I2] = C
Compare 1 & 2-
A & C- remains the same
B- 2 x bigger
Rate- 2 x bigger
Order of reaction of B = 1st order
Compare 2 & 3-
B & C - remains the same
A- 1.2 x bigger
Rate- 1.2 x bigger
Order of reaction of A = 1st order
You already know that if you double
B the rate of reaction also doubles. Now when you compare 3 & 4 you’ll see that B is halved and the rate of reaction also decreased by half. This means that the concentration of iodine did not affect the rate of reaction.
Order of reaction of C= 0 …Last edited by mizfissy815; 13-04-2006 at 20:28.
- 13-04-2006 20:26
The reaction is zero order with respect to I2 so your rate equation is:
overall order 2
If you compare steps 3 and 4 youll see that halving the H+ conc halfs the rate and this must be true as the reaction is order 1 with respect to H+. The I2 has therefore got no effect on the rate.
This experiment hardly works anyways unless you add an acid catalyst.
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- 13-04-2006 20:58
thank u so much, i understand nw ----> made my day!! lol