Labour and woke celebrities save criminals

Why do you conflate upholding the law with
siding with criminals? It doesn't make any sense.

The only person in this thread that has defended breaking the law is you.

I'm not sure how anyone considers the following to be controversial:
(1) the government should be allowed to lawfully deport individuals.

(2) the government should not be allowed to unlawfully deport individuals.

Except that isn’t true though is it? Because as of yet, no laws have been broken, appeals have merely been put in by self interested parties.

One thing that’s interesting here is that if it transpires that in these cases that laws haven’t been broken, then you will have been siding with criminals for nothing.

Why is upholding the fair process of the law siding with criminals?

You have this childish black and white mentality that if you want to things by the book you must support criminals which is a complete oxymoron.

Very simple question for you, do you support breaking the law?

Except that isn’t true though is it? Because as of yet, no laws have been broken, appeals have merely been put in by self interested parties.

One thing that’s interesting here is that if it transpires that in these cases that laws haven’t been broken, then you will have been siding with criminals for nothing.

Nice to see because you’ve been proven to be ********ting again you just deflect the argument!

It’s absolutely not childish to want criminals who have no right to be here deported from this country. Do you believe that murderers and rapists should have more rights than their victims were given?

No laws have been broken, that remains to be seen, as you fine well know. All you’ve got so far is a bunch of appeals.

It’s absolutely not childish to want criminals who have no right to be here deported from this country. Do you believe that murderers and rapists should have more rights than their victims were given?

No laws have been broken, that remains to be seen, as you fine well know. All you’ve got so far is a bunch of appeals.

Whether they have a right to be here will be determined by the courts under the law. How on earth do you know they have no legal right to be here?

And again, they don't have 'more rights' than their victims. That's absolute nonsense.

About as much nonsense as your claim that there were no violent criminals on that flight, just a couple of murderers and rapists, yeah?

Defending the rule of law and opposing the state acting unlawfully is neither left or right wing.



Well evidently the courts think there's enough doubt about the state's legal right to deport these individuals. The state must always act within the law, and that includes ensuring any deportations are lawful.



Firstly none the people removed from the plane had committed a violent crime. Had you bothered to actually read the case you'd have known that. But you don't bother to read cases, you just spout angry pitch fork nonsense based on tabloid headlines.

Sexondly, you don't seem to understand the difference between law and politics. What matters in legal cases is the law. That shouldn't need explaining to you.


Strawman argument ever I've seen one.

1.) None of the people removed from the plane were convicted of violent crimes.

2.) I'm not opposing deportation as a concept. Merely stating that any deportations must be lawful and not arbitrary.

3.) I don't support the Labour Party. Don't assume my political preferences.

Nobody made that claim, stop making **** up. I used to respect you as a poster, I see that respect was misplaced.

@DiddyDec please see above for that ‘claim.’ I’m not making stuff up. That poster was legitimately stupid enough to say that.


Lastly, I can still respect your partisan left wing socialist beliefs in the same way that I would expect you as a reasonable poster could see this from the right wing angle. I don’t however, understand how you do not tie this issue to party politics. Labour have a tremendous chance here. When Brexit goes tits up, and it will, as both you and I agree on, Labour will be there to pick up the pieces. However, if Labour start involving themselves in situations which make them a national embarrassment, that chance will be gone. If they want their voter base back, and in force, they need to respect the views of the working classes.

I have absolutely no data to back this up with, but the reason why the working classes abandoned Labour was due to their stance on Brexit. In those working class heartlands there was a strong leave vote. Labour did not respect that. As a result the voters went blue in their droves. Are you seriously suggesting that those same voters will not see this situation as Labour sticking up for murderers and rapists and wanting to keep them in the country?

You have twisted their claim to suit your own agenda, you have confirmed that you were in fact making **** up.

This is not a political issue, this is about human right and the law.

Do you support breaking the law? Do you support abusing rights?

Sorry but what’s ambiguous about “Firstly none the people removed from the plane had committed a violent crime” which was completely untrue.

I have not twisted anything...

Completely untrue based on what?

Do you believe human should have human rights?

Embarrassing yourself now pal.

Untrue based on what? So you don't count murderers and rapists as violent criminals?

I believe in human rights, I believe that humans should have human rights. However, I also believe that if you take away the human rights of others, then you could find yourself having some of yours taken away.

Why should these murderers and rapists be given more human rights than their victims?

So you once again you have no evidence to support your claim.

So you don't believe in human rights if you think they should be able to be removed, it defeat the whole point of human rights.
Should the employees at the Home Office be stripped of their human rights for breaching the human rights of others? That is what you seem to be suggesting.

What more rights do the deportees have above the victims?

About as much nonsense as your claim that there were no violent criminals on that flight, just a couple of murderers and rapists, yeah?

Have a google pal. In every newspaper. Also comes directly from the Home Office, but I suppose you've got immense distrust in them so what would be the point.

These deportees have got the right to life, in some cases. Do you believe that when someone is raped, it isn't in breach of their human rights?

I see you've failed to answer the question, again. A bit like when you claimed to have read the full case about the associate of the Manxhster bomber, when you hadn't in fact read a word.

So answer the question, should the state be allowed to break the law?