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I have got up to part c in this question but then got stuck. The solution in the book does not help at all. Below I have attached the question and the solution for part c. At the line beginning SO V =, where does the half to the power of tover5 come from? I think it should be e to the power of minus one fifth of ln2t.

Thanks
(edited 10 months ago)
Reply 1
They work out the rate constant
k = 1/5 ln(2)
and the exponential is
e^(-kt)
so the -kt exponent is
-kt = -t/5 ln(2) = ln(2^(-t/5)) = ln( (1/2)^(t/5))
Then sub into the differentia equation for V and the e and ln are inverse functions.
(edited 10 months ago)
Just thought to mention that a few textbook questions are incorrect. You can find the correct answers and full worked solutions on the Physics and Maths Tutor website or the online version of the textbook
Reply 3
Original post by mqb2766
They work out the rate constant
k = 1/5 ln(2)
and the exponential is
e^(-kt)
so the -kt exponent is
-kt = -t/5 ln(2) = ln(2^(-t/5)) = ln( (1/2)^(t/5))
Then sub into the differentia equation for V and the e and ln are inverse functions.

Thank you. I understand that but would not have been able to work it out for myself.

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Reply 4
Original post by maggiehodgson
Thank you. I understand that but would not have been able to work it out for myself.

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NP. Couple of things. Firstly, its unnecessary algebra. You could simply put
V = 20/k - 20/k e^(-kt)
with the value of k youve worked out and hit the calculator.

Secondly, you can always write an exponentiall
e^(kt) = a^t
for some base a. Here k can be positive or negative. The scalar k is just scaling time, just as the value of the base a does. Youo can always write a in terms of k or vice versa which is "simply" all theyve done here and a=(1/2)^(1/5), so the fifth root of 1/2 which is a bit less than 1. So its a slowly decaying exponential which corresponds to k being negative and close to zero..

For the latter point, having an idea that you can write it in either form is arguably the most important thing, after that its just a bit of tedious algebra to transform k <-> a.

Thirdly, you could note that t=5 is the half life of the process as dv/dt goes from 20->10. So for t=10, this must represent a decay to (1/2)^2 = 1/4 of the initial value, hence the 1/4 multiplier near the bottom. After t=15, it would be 1/8 etc ... Saves a fair bit of heartache.
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Reply 5
Original post by mqb2766
NP. Couple of things. Firstly, its unnecessary algebra. You could simply put
V = 20/k - 20/k e^(-kt)
with the value of k youve worked out and hit the calculator.

Secondly, you can always write an exponentiall
e^(kt) = a^t
for some base a. Here k can be positive or negative. The scalar k is just scaling time, just as the value of the base a does. Youo can always write a in terms of k or vice versa which is "simply" all theyve done here and a=(1/2)^(1/5), so the fifth root of 1/2 which is a bit less than 1. So its a slowly decaying exponential which corresponds to k being negative and close to zero..

For the latter point, having an idea that you can write it in either form is arguably the most important thing, after that its just a bit of tedious algebra to transform k <-> a.

Thirdly, you could note that t=5 is the half life of the process as dv/dt goes from 20->10. So for t=10, this must represent a decay to (1/2)^2 = 1/4 of the initial value, hence the 1/4 multiplier near the bottom. After t=15, it would be 1/8 etc ... Saves a fair bit of heartache.

Yes indeed I could have just put t=10 into the equation for V but, stupidly, I never saw that at the time. However, I am very pleased for algebra nudge.

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