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Why do the worst students become teachers ?

red_roadkill

Oh come on, have you read any of her [fundamentaly] posts on TSR? She just goes around insulting people and being patronizing.

She's an arrogant cock.

Still an assumption unless you know her personally. And I'm impressed that she's a cock, being female and all.
I'm not saying I disagree, just that you have nothing solid to base it on.

Reply 101

kb500

V.P. Keys

There sure is, and I'd be happy to point it out.

That wasn't aimed at you lol

Get back on topic.

kb500

B0llocks! A 2:2 is a decent degree.

I'm sorry to break it to you but it really isn't.

Indeed it's not, when it's in something like Sports Studies or Golf Management or god knows what else they teach in 'Universities' these days. But a 2:2 in a challanging subject from a good University is more than acceptable.

fundamentally

Just wondering, why is it that the not-too-bright are the ones who become teachers ?

I'm training to become a teacher right now and I can say there is a wide mix of people on my course in terms of degree classifications and A Level results obtained and the 'level' of universities people went to.

I think most people have at least a 2:2.

Personally, I got AAAAA at A Level and got a high 2:1 at York Uni (almost a 1st...0.5% more and it would have been) and there are certainly people with better degrees than me on the course.

It is just an arrogant attitude showing a complete lack of respect for other people and professions which has created this thread.

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Lush Law

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Roger Kirk

I'm training to become a teacher right now and I can say there is a wide mix of people on my course in terms of degree classifications and A Level results obtained and the 'level' of universities people went to.

I think most people have at least a 2:2.

Personally, I got AAAAA at A Level and got a high 2:1 at York Uni (almost a 1st...0.5% more and it would have been) and there are certainly people with better degrees than me on the course.

It is just an arrogant attitude showing a complete lack of respect for other people and professions which has created this thread.

Exactly. Rep for you! I'm feeling generous :biggrin:

Reply 106

bananas1234

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My Economics teacher went to Oxford to study PPE. He got a 2:1 and got AAAB in his A-Levels.

That is a pretty decent CV and he ended up a teacher.

Reply 107

Saf!

yourjoyismylow

Did he qualify as a biology teacher or is he just teaching it cause noone else is?
Students should know that they have the right to express their concerns if they think a teacher is not good enough. Your school should then start a formal enquiry and observe the teacher.

that never works!......in my school the 2 biology teachers that teach us are both rubbish!....we've been complaining since september, but no one seems to care

Reply 108

lorrybeep

13

its not a matter of who's bright who isnt

people sometimes dont always get to do the things they want to do

Reply 109

john williams

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A quick glance at some posts shows that "some" smart people maybe do become teachers, however its alot easier to become a teacher than an investment banker or other competitive industries, which could be a reason more people with lower grades become so and the pay isnt that bad (on average).

john williams

A quick glance at some posts shows that "some" smart people maybe do become teachers, however its alot easier to become a teacher than an investment banker or other competitive industries, which could be a reason more people with lower grades become so and the pay isnt that bad (on average).

Maybe it is easier to become a teacher than an investment banker because many times more teachers are needed than investment bankers.

Reply 111

kb500

Look I'm sure we have all had the experience of being taught by very good teachers and conversely by some truly appalling ones. Furthermore we have to accept that there are huge variations in teaching standards and qualifications, some are indeed Oxbridge educated as several at my school were and therefore would tend to go against the title of this thread. However, there does seem to be many instances of under-qualified people making it into the profession, for example it is my belief that someone who has less than an A grade at A-Level in the subject they wish to teach in is simply ill-prepared to teach a class to that standard. That this occurs and also that teachers are often forced to cover in subjects they have no specialist knowledge of often leads to a poorer perception of the teaching profession. The notion that if people were able to excel in their subject they wouldn't teach is truer in vocational subjects I think such as IT and Design Technology. This is because there is an obvious industry where these degrees could be utilised whereas for a geography degree for example teaching is more of a logical step. If we want to raise the standard of teaching we have to increase pay to attract the best calibre of people, at present the best aren't being attracted but I think the situation is a long way from being one in which the worst students end up in teaching as was being implied by the OP.

Reply 112

AT82

Attacking people that want to become teachers on a teaching subforum is simply not on.

I am closing this thread now because the debate is going no where.

Why do the worst students become teachers ?

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