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The "Am I good enough for Investment Banking/Consultancy?" Thread

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Original post by DeeDub
Yeah cycling is good did you race individually or as part of a team? As part of team would be better. Computer clubs are also fine you just have to come up with a way to make it relevant on your CV.

The way you use your stock portfolio depends on what you apply for. There is a danger that someone might decide to test you on your knowledge (most likely if you are going into an equities related role) and so by 'bragging' about it on your CV it may set you up for a fall. I am not saying you'll do this but if you are perceived to have the attitude "I bought some shares that happened to go up in value so give me a job," then it is likely that they might have a bit of fun with you or just toss your application in the bin. Going off at a tangent when I was interning last year my team was making an experienced hire, in one of the interviews the interviewee said "I don't know if you know what a swaption is but..." The two interviewers then proceeded to make the remainder of the 30 min interview essentially a verbal test on swaptions. The lesson is unless you are fully confident that can go toe to toe with someone on the ins and out of managing an equity portfolio then handle it with care.

The safest way to play it is to be modest and say that you follow the financial markets and keep up to speed with developments in order to manage your stock portfolio which you do partly as investment but also as a learning exercise.

As far as your job goes I suppose it just shows that you are reliable.


Yes it has been part of a team and not only during uni, for several years beforehand.
What you have told me about the portfolio thing is really helpful as I would probably have done exactly what you are saying looks bad. Thanks a lot for the advice.
On a side note, I checked your profile, were you on university challenge?! wow!
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Original post by venenecinema
Yes it has been part of a team and not only during uni, for several years beforehand.
What you have told me about the portfolio thing is really helpful as I would probably have done exactly what you are saying looks bad. Thanks a lot for the advice.
On a side note, I checked your profile, were you on university challenge?! wow!



Yeah emphasise the team aspect of it. Having your own equity portfolio is definately a positive you just have to be careful not to over sell it.

Yeah I was on University Challenge as part of the Manchester team in 2009/10. We made it to the semi-finals before being knocked out by the eventual winners, Emmanuel Cambridge. It was good experience and good for the CV.
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Original post by venenecinema
Yes it has been part of a team and not only during uni, for several years beforehand.
What you have told me about the portfolio thing is really helpful as I would probably have done exactly what you are saying looks bad. Thanks a lot for the advice.
On a side note, I checked your profile, were you on university challenge?! wow!


Totally agree with "venenecinema" unless you can go toe-to toe bragging about your knowledge can get you into trouble, if I were you I would stick to the I know a bit but am eager to know more approach. You should also make sure you have had a good look at all the potential question that you can be asked...there are a load of blogs and stuff out there, when I was interview prepping I used Graddiary and it gave me a pretty decent rundown of all the stuff I was asked. That being said they can always throw out one of those brainteasers and however well prepared you are its always possible to panic! Just try and remain composed throughout and u should be fine.
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I'm just about to finish first year Economics from Warwick. I'm expecting a 2:1. I've set my mind on consulting after uni, and my aim is obviously the big 3 (MBB). I've got an internship down with Bain this summer (dad's contacts). I'm not exactly sure what I should do, with my 2nd year starting. MBB don't do internships in London. So how do I go about applying? What kind of ECA's would best suit me? Any help regarding this?
Original post by Abh1shek
. I've got an internship down with Bain this summer (dad's contacts)


:lolwut: Is your Dad the CEO of Bain? Didn't think this kind of thing was possible in big-time banking/consulting...
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Original post by BigFudamental
:lolwut: Is your Dad the CEO of Bain? Didn't think this kind of thing was possible in big-time banking/consulting...


easily possible. lots of people around at the big banks who are interning or shadowing because they (or more likely, one of their relatives) know someone
Original post by KLL
easily possible. lots of people around at the big banks who are interning or shadowing because they (or more likely, one of their relatives) know someone


Yea but are we talking proper internship schemes or just convincing someone to let you make coffee for them for a week?
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Ok after reading this thread I have a couple of questions.

1) Are academic grades/institution really that important? Surely if you have what it takes and truly are smart with money; can you not get into a bank somewhere and work your way up? Or would your lack of grades/right University hold you back to much?

2) Would a master's in finance or Investment Banking & Securities at London school of business and finance be worth doing, to get a job in banking and ultimately IB? Also, the degree would be from Portsmouth University either a 2:1 or a 1st. Other grades are BTEC in IT grade DM and only a few GCSE's between A-C. Also, two week unpaid intern at Orange's finance team

I know people will say I have no chance because of the uni/grades etc, but worth a try :smile:

Thanks for the advice
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Original post by NoChance
Ok after reading this thread I have a couple of questions.

1) Are academic grades/institution really that important? Surely if you have what it takes and truly are smart with money; can you not get into a bank somewhere and work your way up? Or would your lack of grades/right University hold you back to much?

2) Would a master's in finance at London school of business and finance be worth doing, to get a job in banking and ultimately IB? Also, the degree would be from Portsmouth University either a 2:1 or a 1st. Other grades are BTEC in IT grade DM and only a few GCSE's between A-C. Also, two week unpaid intern at Orange's finance team

I know people will say I have no chance because of the uni/grades etc, but worth a try :smile:

Thanks for the advice


You are going to struggle to get FO roles coming from Portsmouth with no A-levels. You might be able to get interviews for BO roles likes Ops if you have some good experience (like Orange) and some good ECs. So I suppose on what sort of role you want to do.
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Original post by DeeDub
You are going to struggle to get FO roles coming from Portsmouth with no A-levels. You might be able to get interviews for BO roles likes Ops if you have some good experience (like Orange) and some good ECs. So I suppose on what sort of role you want to do.


Ok this question wont help my case :smile: but what does FO, BO, EC's and Ops mean?

Also, what about the master's idea at LSBF, will it help? Or something like the CFA qualification along side a masters?


Thanks
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Original post by NoChance
Ok this question wont help my case :smile: but what does FO, BO and Ops mean?

Also, what about the master's idea at LSBF, will it help?

Thanks


FO - Front Office (Revenue generating roles generally)
BO - Back Office (Support Functions including Operations)

There are some good videos here that explain the different jobs.

http://www.careerplayer.com/careers/banking-and-investment.aspx

Before you dive into a masters I suggest you do research on the industry and decide whether it is for you.
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investment banking is so rubbish


just get a normal job like normal people you nerds
Original post by Drogue
As well as university and course comparisons, we seem to be getting a lot of threads asking "Am I good enough for IB/C" with something about someone's grades, university, extra curriculars, work experience, etc. This thread is for all those questions.


Urgh, what a boring way to live life
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Original post by DeeDub
FO - Front Office (Revenue generating roles generally)
BO - Back Office (Support Functions including Operations)

There are some good videos here that explain the different jobs.

http://www.careerplayer.com/careers/banking-and-investment.aspx

Before you dive into a masters I suggest you do research on the industry and decide whether it is for you.


Ok thanks for the help, say I decided the industry is for me would a master's help or not? And is LSBF a respected educational institution?

Again thanks for the help

If there is any other places to help my research it would be much appreciated if you or anyone else could give me an idea of the best places to look

Thanks
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Original post by owpowpowp
Urgh, what a boring way to live life


So is wasting time posting on a thread that doesn't interest you
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Original post by NoChance
Ok thanks for the help, say I decided the industry is for me would a master's help or not? And is LSBF a respected educational institution?

Again thanks for the help

If there is any other places to help my research it would be much appreciated if you or anyone else could give me an idea of the best places to look

Thanks


It probably would help depending on what department you wanted to work in, but I don't really know how respected it is and whether it would be worth the money. You could waste a year and a pile of cash and be no further forward. They are hiring you, not your CV.
Original post by NoChance
So is wasting time posting on a thread that doesn't interest you


Oh no, this isn't boring at all
Original post by wasteman
investment banking is so rubbish


just get a normal job like normal people you nerds


Shutup and start collecting the rubbish you wasteman.
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Original post by DeeDub
FO - Front Office (Revenue generating roles generally)
BO - Back Office (Support Functions including Operations)

There are some good videos here that explain the different jobs.

http://www.careerplayer.com/careers/banking-and-investment.aspx

Before you dive into a masters I suggest you do research on the industry and decide whether it is for you.


Ok thanks for the help, say I decided the industry is for me would a master's help or not? And is LSBF a respected educational institution?

If there is any other places to help my research it would be much appreciated if you or anyone else could give me an idea of the best places to look
Original post by therealOG
Shutup and start collecting the rubbish you wasteman.


Right. So there are investment bankers and wastemen. And nothing in between.

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