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Solved it for the first initial conditions, but I would appreciate a check.

What is the situation with the underlined new initial condition though?
Original post by ChrisLorient
Solved it for the first initial conditions, but I would appreciate a check.

What is the situation with the underlined new initial condition though?


I presume it's just the limit criterion that's causing the problem.

limxy(x)=limx(Ae2x+Bex)=0\displaystyle \lim_{x\to\infty} y(x)=\lim_{x\to\infty}(Ae^{2x}+Be^{-x})=0

So,

0=limx(Ae2x)+limx(Bex)\displaystyle 0 =\lim_{x\to\infty}(Ae^{2x})+\lim_{x\to\infty}(Be^{-x})

What's the limit for the second term?

Then what must A be for the whole thing to equal 0?

Edit: First one looks fine, though to finish off, I would restate y(x)= ... with the values of A,B filled in.
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Original post by ghostwalker
I presume it's just the limit criterion that's causing the problem.

limxy(x)=limx(Ae2x+Bex)=0\displaystyle \lim_{x\to\infty} y(x)=\lim_{x\to\infty}(Ae^{2x}+Be^{-x})=0

So,

0=limx(Ae2x)+limx(Bex)\displaystyle 0 =\lim_{x\to\infty}(Ae^{2x})+\lim_{x\to\infty}(Be^{-x})

What's the limit for the second term?

Then what must A be for the whole thing to equal 0?

Edit: First one looks fine, though to finish off, I would restate y(x)= ... with the values of A,B filled in.


Isn't the limit for the second term 0 though? Subbing in a large value, I get back 0.
Original post by ChrisLorient
Isn't the limit for the second term 0 though? Subbing in a large value, I get back 0.


Yes. You can also write it as 1/e^x. So, as x goes to infinity, e^-x goes to zero.
Original post by ghostwalker
Yes. You can also write it as 1/e^x. So, as x goes to infinity, e^-x goes to zero.


OK. But the other term is infinity, no? So isn't that giving that 0 = infinity?
Original post by ChrisLorient
OK. But the other term is infinity, no? So isn't that giving that 0 = infinity?


Well, there's one particular value of A for which it doesn't go to infinity.
Original post by ghostwalker
Well, there's one particular value of A for which it doesn't go to infinity.


0?

Wait, A and B are both 0?
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Original post by ChrisLorient
0?


Yes, so A=0


Wait, A and B are both 0?


No - why would you think that?
Original post by ghostwalker
Yes, so A=0



No - why would you think that?


LHS = 0

Therefore, RHS = 0

If the first term when e^(2x) approaches infinity is infinity, I need A = 0, as nothing else gives a non-positive result (that I know).

So the e^(-x) is hugely negative when infinity is approached, but I need B to make it 0.

So I incorrectly assumed B = 0.
Original post by ChrisLorient
LHS = 0

Therefore, RHS = 0

If the first term when e^(2x) approaches infinity is infinity, I need A = 0, as nothing else gives a non-positive result (that I know).


Yes.


So the e^(-x) is hugely negative when infinity is approached, but I need B to make it 0.


No. You've already covered this. See posts 3 and 4.
Original post by ghostwalker
Yes.



No. You've already covered this. See posts 3 and 4.


OK, so the e term will always give 0. Does that mean B could take any value?
Original post by ChrisLorient
OK, so the e term will always give 0. Does that mean B could take any value?


Based on the limit criterion, yes, B could by anything. But you also have another condition, and you can use that to now determine B.
Original post by ghostwalker
Based on the limit criterion, yes, B could by anything. But you also have another condition, and you can use that to now determine B.


My other condition is that y(0) = 1 .

y(x) = Ae^(2x) + Be^(-x)

So...

1 = Ae^(2*0) + Be^(-0)

1 = A + B

B = 1 - A

If A is 0, then B = 1
Original post by ChrisLorient
My other condition is that y(0) = 1 .

y(x) = Ae^(2x) + Be^(-x)

So...

1 = Ae^(2*0) + Be^(-0)

1 = A + B

B = 1 - A

If A is 0, then B = 1


Yep. Done.
Original post by ghostwalker
Yep. Done.


One last question on this problem. It would be written in its final form as...

y(x) = e^(-x)

Having subbed in A = 0 and B = 1
Original post by ChrisLorient
One last question on this problem. It would be written in its final form as...

y(x) = e^(-x)

Having subbed in A = 0 and B = 1


Yes.
Original post by ghostwalker
Yes.


Thinking about this again, why have I not found a particular integral? Is it because it's homogenous?
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Original post by ChrisLorient
Thinking about this again, why have I not found a particular integral? Is it because it's homogenous?


Looking at the RHS of your DE, if there was a PI, then it's clearly 0, hence none.

Edit: That is treating the PI as something separate to the complementary functions.
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