Official Poetry AQA GCSE thread - Thursday 23rd may 2013

OP

Original post by Avor

Yes does anyone? I wish AQA didn't only provide them to teachers.
Also, some person asked about the difference between evaluation of effects and analysis of effects, and evaluative selection and analytical selection, what actually is the difference?

there is an exemplar one in my 1st post.. for the relationships cluster... i cant find any for the rest unfortunately

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bossun

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Original post by xKatex16

How do you know that Sonnet 116 will appear?

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Go to the first page of this thread, ryan posted a documentation containing the POSSIBLE named poems

Reply 183

Ieatunicorns

Cluster 1 Revision Guide.pdf376.1KB

Original post by lolface32

Depends if you got anything for me in return :rolleyes:

But yeah, I got 3 points. Can't be asked to type it up so I will do one? :colondollar:

Notice how Stanza 1 ends with an unfinished blazon ( a blazon being "a poem complimenting a lover's features from head to toe"). He starts with the eyes and forehead and moves down to the breasts and heart. What Marvell meant is open to interpretation, but I think it implies his motives if you know what I mean :wink:

Obviously I will make another point to explain this, something completely different.

Haha yeah I get you thanks! :biggrin:

ermmm I guess you could comment on lines 8&10 which imply that their love starts just after the creation of the world and stops just before the end- its not a simple start and finish. You could infer that 'true love' only develops in time, suggesting lust (sin) always comes before actual love, giving the speaker a stonger argument for wooing her i guess ... just an interpretation

Reply 184

artyom

Original post by farhana97

which poems have already come up for character and voice?

These are the poems that seem the most likely to come up for character and voice:

Les Grands Seigneurs, The River God, Casehistory: Alison (Head Injury) and On A Portrait of a Deaf Man.

On the attached file, is a thorough analysis of cluster 1: character and voice, collaborated into a PDF file. Hope I helped.

Reply 185

lolface32

Original post by Ieatunicorns

Haha yeah I get you thanks! :biggrin:

ermmm I guess you could comment on lines 8&10 which imply that their love starts just after the creation of the world and stops just before the end- its not a simple start and finish. You could infer that 'true love' only develops in time, suggesting lust (sin) always comes before actual love, giving the speaker a stonger argument for wooing her i guess ... just an interpretation

Took a little to get my head around but, I got there in the end. :biggrin:

Wanna keep doing this thing where we share ideas? It really is broadening :smile:

Reply 186

Newdle

Can anyone aid me with how to structure my response to this question A even more? I know what I need to discuss about from a previous question but I need a little more detail...

Is it P-E-E then another P-E-E comparing? Or is it something else...

Reply 187

Farhan96

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Original post by Avor

Yes does anyone? I wish AQA didn't only provide them to teachers.
Also, some person asked about the difference between evaluation of effects and analysis of effects, and evaluative selection and analytical selection, what actually is the difference?

The analysis of effects would be more what effect it has on the reader and analytical selection would be like one word analyses which examiners love.

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OP

Original post by Newdle

Can anyone aid me with how to structure my response to this question A even more? I know what I need to discuss about from a previous question but I need a little more detail...

Is it P-E-E then another P-E-E comparing? Or is it something else...

i normally use PEEL...where L is link back to the question
i normally do 1 paragraph one point e.g.

m1 - structre
m2 -structre
m1- imagery
m2-imagery

if you get that idea?
ryan

Reply 189

Farhan96

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Original post by ryanb97

there is an exemplar one in my 1st post.. for the relationships cluster... i cant find any for the rest unfortunately

For Section A though? Out of 36?

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username877577

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Original post by Farhan96

For Section A though? Out of 36?

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cleveradam

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Original post by ryanb97

i normally use PEEL...where L is link back to the question
i normally do 1 paragraph one point e.g.

m1 - structre
m2 -structre
m1- imagery
m2-imagery

if you get that idea?
ryan

You doing relationship cluster?
If you are what poems you think will come up?
I'm thinking Ghazal or/and Sonnet 116.
Both of which have not come up.
And a sonnet has not come up in the past 3 exams.

Reply 192

Ieatunicorns

Original post by lolface32

Took a little to get my head around but, I got there in the end. :biggrin:

Wanna keep doing this thing where we share ideas? It really is broadening :smile:

Yeah I agree! What poems would you compare THCM with? I was thinking maybe TFB or manhunt..

Reply 193

Newdle

Original post by ryanb97

i normally use PEEL...where L is link back to the question
i normally do 1 paragraph one point e.g.

m1 - structre
m2 -structre
m1- imagery
m2-imagery

if you get that idea?
ryan

I'm not so sure on doing imagery, surely that would come under 'language' and how it creates this imagery?

But would I do something like this -

Paragraph 1 - Introduction
Paragraph 2 - P-E-E-L structure & compare
Paragraph 3 - P-E-E-L structure & compare
Paragraph 3 - P-E-E-L language & compare
Paragraph 4 - P-E-E-L language & compare
Paragraph 5 - P-E-E-L attitudes/feels/themes & compare
Paragraph 6 - Personal response

I feel like I'm doing this totally wrong, also, how would I incorporate the effect on readers?

And how would I link it back to the question, like would I put 'Armitage uses metaphors to present this unusual character' and then move onto comparing a different language feature for the other poem in the same paragraph?

Reply 194

Peanut247

What's the difference between language, structure and form and can someone give examples?

Reply 195

samueel

what poems do you think will come up for poetry anthology ???

Reply 196

MrB24

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Original post by artyom

These are the poems that seem the most likely to come up for character and voice:

Les Grands Seigneurs, The River God, Casehistory: Alison (Head Injury) and On A Portrait of a Deaf Man.

On the attached file, is a thorough analysis of cluster 1: character and voice, collaborated into a PDF file. Hope I helped.

do u have one 4 conflict?

Reply 197

OP

Original post by MrB24

do u have one 4 conflict?

1st post

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OP