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Original post by Telnet
My how typical of a left wing state education system - you can't be socially right-wing and and intellectual.


just remember that the Germans murdered all the Jews they could find, irrespective of their age, gender or political views.
you are so fortunate not to have been born in that place at that time.
Original post by the bear
just remember that the Germans murdered all the Jews they could find, irrespective of their age, gender or political views.
you are so fortunate not to have been born in that place at that time.


Given his views I think it's fortunate for everyone that he was not born in that place at that time.
Original post by betaglucowhat
Given his views I think it's fortunate for everyone that he was not born in that place at that time.


yes his moral relativism would have made him fit in really well with the German murder machine.
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Original post by betaglucowhat
Given his views I think it's fortunate for everyone that he was not born in that place at that time.


Yes because anyone with right wing views who opposes the globalist takeover wants put innocent people in millions of cages and kill them off.

Great way the elite managed to brainwash you to write off any opposition to them.
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Original post by the bear
yes his moral relativism would have made him fit in really well with the German murder machine.


Yes because left wing Frankfurt School /BBC/ UK education system views are absolute and anything else is moral decline and relative.
Original post by Telnet
Yes because left wing Frankfurt School /BBC/ UK education system views are absolute and anything else is moral decline and relative.


i never went to school in Frankfurt ? :hmmmm2:
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Original post by the bear
i never went to school in Frankfurt ? :hmmmm2:


You may not have attended the Frankfurt School. Frankfurt School values are being taught in your school e.g. Its good to be proud to be black but no good to be proud to be white European, the nation state is evil (esp. Ones run by white people), we need constant social change, Homosexuality is good (for Gentiles), Christianity is bad but other religions are good, equality, diversity, individual human rights before anything else, redefine history in terms of slavery and non-white suffering at the hands of white European people etc. Etc. Not allowed to talk about globalist cartel power because its anti-Semitic. etc.
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Original post by Telnet
Have you ever thought that like everyone else you are capable of selective perception. You only remember the ridiculous arguments.

For example I bet you don't remember being presented with the fact that the International Red Cross were called Holocaust deniers in the 1990s and they made a shameful political apology. They were in the Germany camps but because their accounts didn't agree with what the all BBC educated knew must be true, they must have been wrong and all their documentation was wrong.

The International Red Cross - Holocaust Deniers.


http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/qar51.html

You never actually read the link I posted on the first page, did you? Or did you just dismiss it's well-sourced evidence because it didn't fit with your view?

The main problem Holocaust-deniers never adequately explain is how the entire German populace was fooled into believing the crimes of the Holocaust.
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Original post by PythianLegume
http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/qar51.html

You never actually read the link I posted on the first page, did you? Or did you just dismiss it's well-sourced evidence because it didn't fit with your view?

The main problem Holocaust-deniers never adequately explain is how the entire German populace was fooled into believing the crimes of the Holocaust.


That's amazing that you even use "German populace was fooled into believing the crimes of the Holocaust". You can get anyone to believe anything with propaganda.


There have been many repeatable experiments where subjects were induced with a false memory e.g. Of a robbery that never happened because those around them claimed it happened.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation_effect
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Original post by Telnet
You may not have attended the Frankfurt School. Frankfurt School values are being taught in your school e.g. Its good to be proud to be black but no good to be proud to be white European, the nation state is evil (esp. Ones run by white people), we need constant social change, Homosexuality is good (for Gentiles), Christianity is bad but other religions are good, equality, diversity, individual human rights before anything else, redefine history in terms of slavery and non-white suffering at the hands of white European people etc. Etc. Not allowed to talk about globalist cartel power because its anti-Semitic. etc.


Yeh, the thing I hate most about the left is their hatred of central governments...


Original post by Telnet
That's amazing that you even use "German populace was fooled into believing the crimes of the Holocaust". You can get anyone to believe anything with propaganda.

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But the immediate populace seemed to believe it. Can you really fool the people who knew those who supposedly committed these crimes? Their families?
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Original post by PythianLegume


But the immediate populace seemed to believe it. Can you really fool the people who knew those who supposedly committed these crimes? Their families?


That's easy. Just get the psychological warfare unit of the 12th army to set up a table with shrunken heads from South America, goat lamp shades they claim are made of human skin and tattooed that they claim were scraped off live humans, some soap which you claim is made of humans, put a bunch of bodies around a camp, they might have been people who died towards the end of the war due to disease or lack of food, focus on clothes decontamination rooms with "gas chamber" written on the door (part of the top secret extermination programme along with post offices for the top secret exterminees to use to communicate the secret), and you'll have people talking about your house of horrors in no time. Its a great tactic if you want a regime change.
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Original post by Telnet
Yes because anyone with right wing views who opposes the globalist takeover wants put innocent people in millions of cages and kill them off.


Not anyone, but in your case it's accompanied by conspiracy theories about The JewsTM secretly controlling the world, homophobia, outright Holocaust denial, and sending links to Neo-Nazi websites.
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Original post by betaglucowhat
Not anyone, but in your case it's accompanied by conspiracy theories about The JewsTM secretly controlling the world, homophobia, outright Holocaust denial, and sending links to Neo-Nazi websites.


In that case Wikipedia is a neo-nazi website for saying what you don't like to hear (or you have been indoctrinated to protest and deflect):

Niles' Weekly Register, Volume 49 has the following to say about the Rothschilds influence on international high finance;

"The Rothschilds are the wonders of modern banking ... we see the descendants of Judah, after a persecution of two thousand years, peering above kings, rising higher than emperors, and holding a whole continent in the hollow of their hands. The Rothschilds govern a Christian world. Not a cabinet moves without their advice. They stretch their hand, with equal ease, from Petersburgh to Vienna, from Vienna to Paris, from Paris to London, from London to Washington. Baron Rothschild, the head of the house, is the true king of Judah, the prince of the captivity, the Messiah so long looked for by this extraordinary people. He holds the keys of peace or war, blessing or cursing. ... They are the brokers and counselors of the kings of Europe and of the republican chiefs of America. What more can they desire?"[29]


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family
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Reply 113
Original post by Telnet
I read the Wikipedia article on Laurence Rees. He is primarily a BBC programme maker. The BBC is a highly biased organisation. Furthermore look at list of programmes he has made. Do you see a pattern here:



2012 The Dark Charisma of Adolf Hitler producer and writer
2008 World War II: Behind Closed Doors
2005 Hitler's Place in History executive producer
2005 Auschwitz: The Nazis and the 'Final Solution' producer, director & writer
2003 Colosseum: Rome's Arena of Death co-executive producer
2002 Christmas Under Fire executive producer
2002 The Ship executive producer
2001 Timewatch: Bombing Germany executive producer
2001 Horror in the East producer & writer
2000 Conquistadors executive producer
2000 Sleeping with the Enemy producer
2000 Hitlers Krieg im Osten director
1999 War of the Century producer & writer
1998 In the Footsteps of Alexander the Great executive producer
1997 Tales from the Tomb: Lost Sons of the Pharaohs executive producer
1997 Timewatch: Secret Memories executive producer
1997 The Nazis: A Warning from History producer, director & writer
1995 Crusades executive producer
1995 Reputations: Pope Pius XII the Pope, the Jews and the Nazis executive producer
1994 Reputations: Beria Stalin's Creature executive producer
1992 We Have Ways of Making You Think producer & writer
1982 Timewatch editor


yes...it is amazing that he had so much material to go on considering the wholllllee thing never happened right? Exactly the same as the theme of your website
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Original post by Telnet
You may not have attended the Frankfurt School. Frankfurt School values are being taught in your school e.g. Its good to be proud to be black but no good to be proud to be white European, the nation state is evil (esp. Ones run by white people), we need constant social change, Homosexuality is good (for Gentiles), Christianity is bad but other religions are good, equality, diversity, individual human rights before anything else, redefine history in terms of slavery and non-white suffering at the hands of white European people etc. Etc. Not allowed to talk about globalist cartel power because its anti-Semitic. etc.


Ok, you started off questioning the Holocaust, and now you are questioning the acceptability of being white European - I think your true colours are coming out now, and your seemingly uneducated questioning of such a disaster is obviously just a part of a much larger issue. No-one has said Christianity is bad and other religions are good?? You are completely off topic, and I think bringing religion, race and sexuality in to the discussion just shows you are grabbing at straws now. Millions of people went missing, there are thousands of testimonies from both sides that attest to the existence of gas chambers and witnessing the killings. But because you have some shaky evidence from some people who cannot completely remember what they saw, or an anonymous website, you are going on some power to the straight, white, Christian man rant. Grow up and realise that you will not win this argument. If you believe the right wing, white European is struggling in anyway, or feels discriminated against in comparison to his socialist black counterpart - you are more delusional than I thought. Buuuut, this is just one massive international conspiracy cover up, and I have been paid by the underground Jewish cartel to log in here and say these things. Guess I should come clean...
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Original post by Joanna9
Ok, you started off questioning the Holocaust, and now you are questioning the acceptability of being white European - I think your true colours are coming out now, and your seemingly uneducated questioning of such a disaster is obviously just a part of a much larger issue. No-one has said Christianity is bad and other religions are good?? You are completely off topic, and I think bringing religion, race and sexuality in to the discussion just shows you are grabbing at straws now. Millions of people went missing, there are thousands of testimonies from both sides that attest to the existence of gas chambers and witnessing the killings. But because you have some shaky evidence from some people who cannot completely remember what they saw, or an anonymous website, you are going on some power to the straight, white, Christian man rant. Grow up and realise that you will not win this argument. If you believe the right wing, white European is struggling in anyway, or feels discriminated against in comparison to his socialist black counterpart - you are more delusional than I thought. Buuuut, this is just one massive international conspiracy cover up, and I have been paid by the underground Jewish cartel to log in here and say these things. Guess I should come clean...


You started talking about the morals, motivation and background of people writing things you don't agree with.

When I start doing this for the people writing the things you agree with its immature and clutching at straws.

This is completely relevant, its a movement to denigrate our own and make "the other" superior. A separate point from the existence of homicidal gas chambers but quite relevant.

Do you have any evidence to provide that homicidal gas chambers existed aside from the testimony of Hollywood proven fakes like Simon Wiesenthal.

I believe what the evidence shows. Ask any court judge how reliable witnesses are.

A great number of people can convince someone including yourself of virtually anything.

Dr. Franciszek Piper, The director of the Auschwitz museum admits that his gas chambers are fakes ("reconstructions") so please don't go telling me to see the gas chambers at Auschwitz.




Please see this clip about the global Jewish amnesia about the Holocaust which persisted till the 1980s when the mass-media implanted the thoughts of the (Orwellian) "truth":

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Reply 116
Original post by Telnet
You started talking about the morals, motivation and background of people writing things you don't agree with.

When I start doing this for the people writing the things you agree with its immature and clutching at straws.

This is completely relevant, its a movement to denigrate our own and make "the other" superior. A separate point from the existence of homicidal gas chambers but quite relevant.

Do you have any evidence to provide that homicidal gas chambers existed aside from the testimony of Hollywood proven fakes like Simon Wiesenthal.

I believe what the evidence shows. Ask any court judge how reliable witnesses are.

A great number of people can convince someone including yourself of virtually anything.


Who exactly is 'our own' - colonialism and immigration have long meant that we are a mixing bowl of hundreds of different cultures and countries (and we are all the better for it...). You keep telling people that their evidence is not reliable, that their evidence is worth nothing, but after what, 5 pages? of this thread YOU have still not been able to give proof that they didn't exist. The only evidence you have is that of a website, wow, and you still, after me asking repeatedly, been able to tell us your educational background. It really does seem that you are nothing but a scared little racist, anti-Semite and are trying to belittle people that have a decent enough education to be able to make their own decisions. Any one studying history knows that you never ever take something at face value, you look at all sources available, you research and read and meet as many viable witnesses as possible to an event. Only then do you make your conclusion. But of course, the world government has tricked the entire population for 70 years in to believing something that is false, the underground psychologists and scientists work tirelessly to keep us under this false view that the Holocaust actually happened. Another Holocaust denier that has nothing but conspiracy to back up his arguments. Tiring, boring and stupid. Thank you for reaffirming my view that idiots do not belong in public. (let me guess your next post, oh so people that try to find the truth are idiots, oh by calling me an idiot you are falling fowl to conspiracy and lies - grow up and get an education). I have studying to do and a social life to attend to. I suggest you do the same.
Original post by Telnet
Yea I know but... Everything will be explained away, it's only this, it's only that, it's no different to this or that...

Anything to explain away and maintain the confirmation bias. Wall Street sponsorship of Leon Trotsky... It's only this.... Drones in the United States.... It's only that ..... Middle East war fit ups.... It's only..... Secret society leaked documents.... Its only.....

The meeting at Jekyll Island... It's only.... The Benjamin Franklin 1961 speech... It's only ..... The Syrian fit up..... It's only . Hitler's finances ... It's only ......


So you're refusing to give an argument because it will be explained away

:rofl: :rofl2: :rofl: :rofl2: :rofl: :rofl2: :rofl: :rofl2:

Are you sure you even understand what you believe and why you believe it?

"I do see why I should have to produce an argument, you might actually counter it" :dunce:

DERRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Honestly, someone should make a Forrest Gump award, especially for you, or something

Original post by Telnet
Yes but they also said that Iran has been building a nuke for the last few decades and that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and Syrian rebels had gassed people which turned out to be untrue. Why do you take what they say at face value.


What on Earth does this have to do with the Jews? :facepalm2:
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Reply 118
Original post by Joanna9
Who exactly is 'our own' - colonialism and immigration have long meant that we are a mixing bowl of hundreds of different cultures and countries (and we are all the better for it...). You keep telling people that their evidence is not reliable, that their evidence is worth nothing, but after what, 5 pages? of this thread YOU have still not been able to give proof that they didn't exist. The only evidence you have is that of a website, wow, and you still, after me asking repeatedly, been able to tell us your educational background. It really does seem that you are nothing but a scared little racist, anti-Semite and are trying to belittle people that have a decent enough education to be able to make their own decisions. Any one studying history knows that you never ever take something at face value, you look at all sources available, you research and read and meet as many viable witnesses as possible to an event. Only then do you make your conclusion. But of course, the world government has tricked the entire population for 70 years in to believing something that is false, the underground psychologists and scientists work tirelessly to keep us under this false view that the Holocaust actually happened. Another Holocaust denier that has nothing but conspiracy to back up his arguments. Tiring, boring and stupid. Thank you for reaffirming my view that idiots do not belong in public. (let me guess your next post, oh so people that try to find the truth are idiots, oh by calling me an idiot you are falling fowl to conspiracy and lies - grow up and get an education). I have studying to do and a social life to attend to. I suggest you do the same.


A website is just the medium of exchange of information. Whether a medium of exchange is a website, email, letter, fax, telex or carrier pigeon, it really makes no difference. What matters is the information communicated.

I see that you have made no attempt to address the information provided, the documents which have credibility established and have been sourced, interviews, photographs and quotes.

This is fairly typical of someone who has been educated in our left wing biased education system. You never tackle something head on by addressing the point made, you have to try and attack the other party using labels or acting as if they are completely unintelligent to make the point.

If they expose any lies in common knowledge, they must be wrong be it is ridiculous that they are suggesting a grand conspiracy. News flash what you call an accusation of a grand conspiracy is just the way "groupthink" works.

The point I am making goes also for the right of the European people's to a Homeland. This ridiculous left for years has called it racist to suggest that Europe has an indigenous population who have a Homeland and a right to a Homeland and that they have a distinct identity, history and future. There is a native population in Europe an Britain has not always been a nation of immigrants. Before 1950 less than 0.2% were immigrants. Its a lie put out by an establishment to has been convinced by "groupthink" deriving from the Frankfurt School with a little ticker in their heads to overcome their own and make their lands everyone else's. They say they are proud of the ANC in Africa but any such suggestion for white European people is racist. These are bigoted individuals with such hypocrisy and double standards that they should be ashamed of themselves, and most of them know they are liars after they reach 30 but continue this shared because the establishment has become corrupted by this paradigm.
The Nazi fascist state killed 20 million innocents in democide (not 6 million, which is simply the number of people sent to the gas chambers).

The USSR Communist state killed tens of millions of innocents over the course of its history, although estimates vary.

Communist Cambodia, under the insanely homicidal Pol Pot, killed a large percentage of its population through democide (i.e. a few million).

Communist China killed well over 30, perhaps 60 million people in democide - both before, during and after Mao's rule, and also to this day it executes thousands of people every year for crimes no sane person would say warrant the death penalty.

The Japanese empire killed and experimented on Chinese civilians in subhuman ways, like the Nazis (see Unit 731 on Wikipedia, if you have a strong stomach).

The UK killed a few hundred thousand innocents over the course of the 20th century, mainly in strategic bombing of Germany during WWII.

The USA killed a similar number, mainly in strategic bombing of Japan during WWII, as well as war crimes such as the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam war.

So yes, the holocaust was bad, very bad, but in general the 20th century was a bloodbath of government-induced mass-killing, mainly under Marxist or Fascist states.

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