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Cambridge students vote against Remembrance Sunday

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ITT: People saying the left are trying to remove freedom of speech while saying students acting upon their freedom of speech is disgusting.
Original post by tashkent46
It's a simplistic view of the military which does not really take into account the fact the military is not just a fighting force. The army and navy have had a role to play in alleviating poverty, humanitarian conflicts, combating trafficking on the seas and God knows what else; these simpletons who want us to abolish it clearly have no need for us to do any of those things.

I know, I've done some of those things and hence 'not the only role', but the military are classed as 'warfighter first'. That's how the vast majority of the military die, in combat situations, and that's what the Armistice and Remembrance is for.
Reply 122
Original post by DerivativeName
ITT: People saying the left are trying to remove freedom of speech while saying students acting upon their freedom of speech is disgusting.


They have the freedom to say it, but we also have the freedom to say that we disagree with their position.
Original post by Talon
They have the freedom to say it, but we also have the freedom to say that we disagree with their position.


You do have that freedom but there's a difference between disagreeing with their idea and suggesting that its disgusting or wrong to express that opinion. That's against their freedom of speech.
Reply 124
Original post by DerivativeName
You do have that freedom but there's a difference between disagreeing with their idea and suggesting that its disgusting or wrong to express that opinion. That's against their freedom of speech.


No it isn't. I'm not stopping them from saying it. Plus we're not saying they are wrong to express their opinion, we are disagreeing with the opinion.
(edited 5 years ago)
This was one of those stories that made no sense so have been digging to find out the truth. Found this:-

https://www.cusu.co.uk/2018/10/17/no-we-did-not-ban-poppies-or-remembrance-day-at-cambridge-university/

I am furious that we have conned yet again by the usual press suspects. Get it out there on Facebook and Twitter that this was *******s!
Original post by Steve Hayes
Found this:-


And only eight days after it had already been mentioned in this thread.
Original post by Good bloke
And only eight days after it had already been mentioned in this thread.


The article looks newer than eight days to be honest
Original post by Steve Hayes
The article looks newer than eight days to be honest


But its general content was known in this thread a week ago.
Original post by Good bloke
But its general content was known in this thread a week ago.

Apologies. Had just read loads of crap on Facebook and Twitter and assumed it was not yet well known .
Original post by Steve Hayes
Apologies. Had just read loads of crap on Facebook and Twitter and assumed it was not yet well known .

Anger is now turning to disbelieve that the non-snowflakes generations can be so incredibly gullible when reading the right wing press 😂😂
Reply 131
WW1 and WW2 were different wars. Personally I find the commemoration of WW1 to be in poor taste, since it was a war between empires in which the working classes of different nations were compelled to butcher each other, all for the greater glory of the industrial capitalists of their respective nations. In that sense, for all the loss of life, there was nothing heroic in that war. The only good that came of it was the attempt, from 1917, of workers to overthrow their governments (in Austria-Hungary, Germany, Russia, Finland etc.)

WW2 however, was to some extent a democratic war, which fought and destroyed the fascist threat which had been looming since the 1920s.
Original post by Spirithorse
Cambridge University’s Student Union (CUSU) has voted no to the promotion of Remembrance Sunday because they see it as a “glorification” of conflict.

This could include asking for a minute's silence on Remembrance Sunday or sending email reminders to students about the availability of poppies. Student activist Stella Swain, argued that “all lives lost and affected by war” should be commemorated and that students should be encouraged to engage in “productive criticism” of war. She said she wanted to “reflect the status of the University as an international institution” and argued that it was “vital that we recognise all different background and don’t just focus on British war veterans”.

What do you think?
Should Remembrance Sunday be replaced by a day that commemorates all wars?
Should there even be such a day? Or should we stop the commemoration at all?

Isn't remembering all those lost in conflict already the point of Rememberance Sunday? The date was just chosen because it marked the end of the first WORLD war, with the hope of never having another similar conflict (which obviously hasn't happened but that's another argument)

If they want to get rid of Rememberance Sunday, then they are showing themselves to never want to remember those brave people who have given the ultimate sacrifice to give us in the majority of the world the life we live today. IMO they have no respect if they think that
If you read the press release type thing
Original post by super_kawaii
Isn't remembering all those lost in conflict already the point of Rememberance Sunday? The date was just chosen because it marked the end of the first WORLD war, with the hope of never having another similar conflict (which obviously hasn't happened but that's another argument)

If they want to get rid of Rememberance Sunday, then they are showing themselves to never want to remember those brave people who have given the ultimate sacrifice to give us in the majority of the world the life we live today. IMO they have no respect if they think that

They don’t think like that according to the CUSU link I posted a few posts higher up this thread. Quite the opposite.
Yet another example of a tabloid story being either a) incompentently researched or b) deliberately and wilfully misleading.

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