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Veterinary nursing - degree or diploma?

Hey,

I’m really struggling to decided whether to do a degree or a diploma in veterinary nursing.
I like the idea of the diploma as it is more practical and less money/time but I also like the degree side as you come out with a degree and I guess it’s valued higher??
I’m 23 so I’m not sure how much a diploma course would be, it’s something I obviously need to find out.
Has anyone got any advice on this?
Thanks!!
Reply 1
Original post by Bethbef96
Hey,

I’m really struggling to decided whether to do a degree or a diploma in veterinary nursing.
I like the idea of the diploma as it is more practical and less money/time but I also like the degree side as you come out with a degree and I guess it’s valued higher??
I’m 23 so I’m not sure how much a diploma course would be, it’s something I obviously need to find out.
Has anyone got any advice on this?
Thanks!!

Hi
End of the day you are the only one that can decide in doing BSC degree or level 3 diploma degree veterinary nursing course
I'm in final days of my 4 years BSC degree veterinary nursing course and its been great to do as only final exams to do after easter

Its a degree as you said and you'll still get a job in veterinary nursing regardless of which one you do .
Do the BSC degree route over four years if you can do that ok .

PM if you wish to ok as not fussy if you don't
Original post by Bethbef96
Hey,

I’m really struggling to decided whether to do a degree or a diploma in veterinary nursing.
I like the idea of the diploma as it is more practical and less money/time but I also like the degree side as you come out with a degree and I guess it’s valued higher??
I’m 23 so I’m not sure how much a diploma course would be, it’s something I obviously need to find out.
Has anyone got any advice on this?
Thanks!!

Personally I value the diploma more than the degree, I think you end up as a better practical nurse. If you can find a training practice it often doesn't cost anything as your employer pays, you also get paid a wage. Win win and no student debt!
Original post by animalmagic
Personally I value the diploma more than the degree, I think you end up as a better practical nurse. If you can find a training practice it often doesn't cost anything as your employer pays, you also get paid a wage. Win win and no student debt!

Couldn't agree more.

Having a degree does not necessarily make you a better nurse, nor guarantee you a better job. That is largely determined by your ability to work with others, your work ethic and the quality of your training placements.

Good nurses are in short supply, and contrary to rumour, having a diploma has never stopped any of my friends getting decent jobs (and that includes leading referral and teaching institutions).
Reply 4
I knew I’d get a sort of equal response to both options 😂 thank you guys for giving me your opinions!
Original post by Bethbef96
I knew I’d get a sort of equal response to both options 😂 thank you guys for giving me your opinions!


Bear in mind that @weeemma is a degree student nurse and myself and @ch0c0h01ic are both vets. I was a practice owner and employer for 25 years as well. I employed nurses both as clinical nurses and also as practice managers. None of the nurses who managed branches for me had a degree. They had learnt their skills on the shop floor doing the job.
(edited 4 years ago)
Reply 6
Original post by Bethbef96
I knew I’d get a sort of equal response to both options 😂 thank you guys for giving me your opinions!

You are welcome okay and I just hope that you will chose the right one that suits yourself okay.
Let's us know what one you decide to go for and good luck with it to xx
Reply 7
Original post by Bethbef96
Hey,

I’m really struggling to decided whether to do a degree or a diploma in veterinary nursing.
I like the idea of the diploma as it is more practical and less money/time but I also like the degree side as you come out with a degree and I guess it’s valued higher??
I’m 23 so I’m not sure how much a diploma course would be, it’s something I obviously need to find out.
Has anyone got any advice on this?
Thanks!!

Hi,

I agree with everything that has been said above. I done the diploma route, so feel free to ask any questions. Be aware though that not all diploma placements are paid, it depends if the course you are on is classed as an apprenticeship or not, so I would speak to the college about it. SVN's on uni placements rarely get paid at all.

Both routes have their plus and minuses, but at the end of the day you will still be an RVN, and as already said, both diploma and degree nurses are equally employable and mostly have equal opportunities. I think there used to be a stigma (and maybe there still is?), that degree nurses have less practical skills than diploma nurses, but I wouldn't let this put you off because even if you did feel you had less practical experience after graduating, you would soon catch up within months- if not weeks- of starting your RVN job.

It also depends if you are bothered about having the whole uni experience, it could be a good opportunity for you to move out, move to a different city etc. But remember if you choose the degree route then you would have to fund any future degrees yourself (just something to bear in mind)

I think the only time I have seen diploma nurses at a disadvantage is when they go for any teaching posts (you may be restricted in what modules you can teach), or I have noticed that some referral practices specify that they want a degree nurse (however practices can often not afford to be this picky anyway due to the national shortage of nurses, and it's just luck as to what other applicants you would be against).

Paid placements for the diploma are like gold dust, so if you can find one then go for it! But on the other hand going to university is a great opportunity, and takes the pressure off getting your foot in the profession.

I could go on and on! Like I say, feel free to drop me a message if you wish :smile:
(edited 4 years ago)
Reply 8
Original post by Rugrat95
Hi,

I agree with everything that has been said above. I done the diploma route, so feel free to ask any questions. Be aware though that not all diploma placements are paid, it depends if the course you are on is classed as an apprenticeship or not, so I would speak to the college about it. SVN's on uni placements rarely get paid at all.

Both routes have their plus and minuses, but at the end of the day you will still be an RVN, and as already said, both diploma and degree nurses are equally employable and mostly have equal opportunities. I think there used to be a stigma (and maybe there still is?), that degree nurses have less practical skills than diploma nurses, but I wouldn't let this put you off because even if you did feel you had less practical experience after graduating, you would soon catch up within months- if not weeks- of starting your RVN job.

It also depends if you are bothered about having the whole uni experience, it could be a good opportunity for you to move out, move to a different city etc. But remember if you choose the degree route then you would have to fund any future degrees yourself (just something to bear in mind)

I think the only time I have seen diploma nurses at a disadvantage is when they go for any teaching posts (you may be restricted in what modules you can teach), or I have noticed that some referral practices specify that they want a degree nurse (however practices can often not afford to be this picky anyway due to the national shortage of nurses, and it's just luck as to what other applicants you would be against).

Paid placements for the diploma are like gold dust, so if you can find one then go for it! But on the other hand going to university is a great opportunity, and takes the pressure off getting your foot in the profession.

I could go on and on! Like I say, feel free to drop me a message if you wish :smile:

Wow thank you for such a lengthy and informative response! I'm not really bothered about the Uni experience however I think I have a place at a local college that offers the degree so it wouldn't really change either way for me the experience as I wouldn't live in halls and would just commute.

I don't think I would go into the teaching route either and I know that with the degree you can specialise and teach, so the diploma route seems more for me.

My family want me to do the degree because of it being a ~degree~ but I know obviously it's my choice at the end of the day. I might drop you a message tomorrow and speak to you more about your experience!

Thank you!!
Reply 9
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Original post by animalmagic
Bear in mind that @weeemma is a degree student nurse and myself and @ch0c0h01ic are both vets. I was a practice owner and employer for 25 years as well. I employed nurses both as clinical nurses and also as practice managers. None of the nurses who managed branches for me had a degree. They had learnt their skills on the shop floor doing the job.

That is very interesting to know! I think I am more of a practical person so the diploma seems more appealing to me but that definitely helps more out as I thought practices would probably value people with degrees more, so thank you!
Original post by Bethbef96
Wow thank you for such a lengthy and informative response! I'm not really bothered about the Uni experience however I think I have a place at a local college that offers the degree so it wouldn't really change either way for me the experience as I wouldn't live in halls and would just commute.

I don't think I would go into the teaching route either and I know that with the degree you can specialise and teach, so the diploma route seems more for me.

My family want me to do the degree because of it being a ~degree~ but I know obviously it's my choice at the end of the day. I might drop you a message tomorrow and speak to you more about your experience!

Thank you!!

Well both routes have their advantages so whatever you decide, it's not going to be a bad decision. No problem! Yep feel free to message me at any time if you want to, but all the best of luck with whatever you choose! :smile:

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