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use pOH = -log [OH-] then pH + pOH = 14 :smile:
Reply 2
EierVonSatan
use pOH = -log [OH-] then pH + pOH = 14 :smile:

eh?

surely its pH = -log(OH), so pH = 0.522

just like it is for acids?
2strong
eh?

surely its pH = -log(OH), so pH = 0.522

just like it is for acids?


nope:

potential of hydrogen pH = -log [H+]

potential of hydroxide pOH = -log [OH-]
Reply 4
EierVonSatan
nope:

potential of hydrogen pH = -log [H+]

potential of hydroxide pOH = -log [OH-]


what!?

wait hang on.

If there is 1.4 M of H2SO4, what is its pH? -0.442 right?
2strong
what!?

wait hang on.

If there is 1.4 M of H2SO4, what is its pH? -0.442 right?


yeah :smile: (well -0.447)
Reply 6
EierVonSatan
yeah :smile: (well -0.447)

Ok, so how is the method I used to get that answer different to the method I use to get the answer to the question in the opening post?
2strong
Ok, so how is the method I used to get that answer different to the method I use to get the answer to the question in the opening post?


You want to find the pH, and you're given the concentration of NaOH (a strong base so can assume [NaOH] = [OH-]). You cannot find the pH directly from this and so you are given that Kw = [OH-][H+] = 10-14.

So, firstly find the pOH then use pH + pOH = 14 to find the pH.

If pH = -log [OH] then > pH = 0.55 is a bit low for a strong base :yep:
Reply 8
2strong
0.3M of NaOH.

Calculate the pH when Kw = 1x10^14 at 298K.


I dont get how to do this.

I know that Kw = [H+] x [OH-]

But since I only know the conc. of the NaOH, I dont understand how to use that identity above to work out the pH of NaOH.

Or am I being stupid and confusing myself over information that has no bearing on the answer?


Thanks


pOH = 13.48
pH = 0.52

Add them together to get a pH of 14.

No?

PS: It's 1 x 10^-14
Reply 9
EierVonSatan
You want to find the pH, and you're given the concentration of NaOH (a strong base so can assume [NaOH] = [OH-]). You cannot find the pH directly from this and so you are given that Kw = [OH-][H+] = 10-14.

So, firstly find the pOH then use pH + pOH = 14 to find the pH.

If pH = -log [OH] then > pH = 0.55 is a bit low for a strong base :yep:


The underlines pH and the boldend pH are different arnt they?
2strong
The underlines pH and the boldend pH are different arnt they?


The bottom line is your suggestion, and is wrong

This is how you do it;

pOH = -log (0.3) = 0.523

pH = 14 - 0.523 = 13.5

so pH = 13.5

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