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C4 Differentiation

What is

ddtln1I16 \frac {d}{dt} ln 1 - \frac {I}{16}

and why?

I know that

ddtlnI16=1I.dIdt \frac {d}{dt} ln \frac {I}{16} = \frac {1}{I} . \frac {dI}{dt}

Thank you.
(edited 13 years ago)
Reply 1
LaTex Error = Your computer is going to blow up.
Reply 2
Original post by H3rrW4rum
What is

ddtln1I16 \frac {d}{dt} ln 1 - \frac {I}{16}

and why?

I know that

ddtlnI16=1I.dIdt \frac {d}{dt} ln \frac {I}{16} = \frac {1}{I} . \frac {dI}{dt}

Thank you.


Is the I meant to be a t ?
Reply 3
Original post by wizz_kid
Is the I meant to be a t ?


Nope.
Reply 4
Here's the actual question and my working so far:

Find the rate of change of I when t=3,

where I = 16 - 16(0.5)^t

Answer = ln 4

My working so far:

I=16(10.5t) I = 16(1-0.5^t)

1I16=0.5t 1 - \frac {I}{16}=0.5^t

ln1I16=tln0.5 ln 1 - \frac {I}{16} = t ln 0.5

When I differentiate the RHS wrt t I get ln 05.

But how do I differentiate the LHS wrt t?

Thanks.
Reply 5
You didn't ln the LHS correctly.
Any how, leave it as I = 16 - 16(0.5)^t and work out dI/dt.

a^t becomes (a^t)ln(a)
Reply 6
Original post by vc94
You didn't ln the LHS correctly.
Any how, leave it as I = 16 - 16(0.5)^t and work out dI/dt.

a^t becomes (a^t)ln(a)


Why can you not just

ln (1 - (I/16)) ?

And how can you differentiate 16 - 16(0.5)^t straight away?
ddtf(I)=(dfdI)(dIdt)\frac{d}{dt}f(I) = (\frac{df}{dI})(\frac{dI}{dt})
Reply 8
Original post by H3rrW4rum
Here's the actual question and my working so far:

Find the rate of change of I when t=3,

where I = 16 - 16(0.5)^t

Answer = ln 4

My working so far:

I=16(10.5t) I = 16(1-0.5^t)

1I16=0.5t 1 - \frac {I}{16}=0.5^t

ln1I16=tln0.5 ln 1 - \frac {I}{16} = t ln 0.5

When I differentiate the RHS wrt t I get ln 05.

But how do I differentiate the LHS wrt t?

Thanks.


Implicit Differentiation.
(edited 13 years ago)
Reply 9
I know if

y=at y = a^t

dydx=atlna \frac {dy}{dx} = a^t ln a

So in this case

I=1616(0.5t) I = 16 - 16(0.5^t)

dIdt=16(0.5t)ln0.5 \frac {dI}{dt} = -16(0.5^t) ln 0.5

I just can't see how you get there.

EDIT: I can see it now, -16 is a constant you can just take out right? Then proceed as normal, put the -16 back in and you get the answer.
(edited 13 years ago)
Reply 10
Correct, the -16 doesn't interfere!
Reply 11
Original post by vc94
Correct, the -16 doesn't interfere!


Yea I was looking at it for ages, knowing there was a much simpler way to do it (as is often the case) but just couldn't see it :mad:

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