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The State Department is releasing pictures of the body and burial within the next few days. I have no doubt however, that you'll proceed to idiotically claim this evidence is fake and that the "man" is telling us lies, lies and more damn lies

Agreed! I kind of feel sorry for him. His sudden death and his son was killed in front him and his wife shot in the leg. It's a harsh thing to do, he had a family. Yes I understand what he had done but do we have any proof he was behind the attacks or could he have been framed? :|

'retaliate back' is a rather redundant phrase...


Don't you think the chance of an increase in activity regardless was always on the cards? If they'd captured him then there would be risk of hostage situations on planes, in buildings, etc...

There are down sides no matter which way you go.

The Fourth Convention has complete necessity here. It implies the terms and conditions civilians are given during capture, occupation of land/population center/etc.

If we assume Osama fell under the term "non-combatant" given he wasn't part of a permanent military armed force, then he falls directly under the protection of the Fourth Act, and will fall under the following term,

The list goes on.

The point is, Osama, if he had been designated under the Civilian aspect which he wouldn't have been, a combatant is a combatant as far as the Third is concerned, and following paragraphs from the First and Second relevant to this scenario.

If he had been considered under Civilian designation, even with the tags mentioned above, he still wouldn't have been able to be touched. The Fourth Convention attempted to halt anyone in any nation facing the prospect of trial, torture, prison, execution, etc.

Granted, you're right, in some cases they would dismiss these and go for it anyway.

For example, if a man had a direct knowledge to the locations of nuclear devices set to go off.

Would Osama have proved such a VISI? No. By the admission of another captured Al-Qaeda member, Osama had been "thrown out of the loop" when it came to strategic planning and tactical moves on the Coalition and The West.

Granted, its possible they'd have forced open a loop-hole to gain information about the upper-echelon and elite of Al-Qaeda which is still very much unaccounted for. Could they have done this without breaking some form? No. Would they have attempted it? Possibly.

No matter which way you slice this, he would have been designated as either a combatant or a civilian under-warfare. Either which way, he is still well within the confines of anyone even so much as suggesting his torture.

I'm not saying they wouldn't; they've waded through red tape before and they'll no doubt do it again. Its entirely possible they would have, if he had been captured alive, been subjected to torture. Although its very, very unlikely.

They aren't designated "Unlawful Enemy Combatants"; given they aren't wearing Uniform, Camo or designated via symbols of a battalion and representative of a nation, means they are designated as "Civilians under combat initiative / Civilians under non-Military Hierarchical orders (including Religious extremism, and using that as a justification of an attack, for example this situation)".

Military Commissions Act 2006

(a) Purpose— This chapter establishes procedures governing the use of military commissions to try alien unlawful enemy combatants engaged in hostilities against the United States for violations of the law of war and other offenses triable by military commission.

(g) Geneva Conventions Not Establishing Source of Rights— No alien unlawful enemy combatant subject to trial by military commission under this chapter may invoke the Geneva Conventions as a source of rights.

"The term 'unlawful enemy combatant' means —

(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al-Qaida, or associated forces); or

(ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense."

I hear Bin Laden is a lizard man.

I don't think this current US administration set out to kill Osama Bin Laden, only to parade his dead body to everyone to show off their trophy kill! Plus in order to minimise, any backlash from his followers, they had 24 hours to give him an islamic burial as is stated by the religion.


I'm quite happy to believe he is dead, but if you would prefer to see his dead mutilated corpse complete with 2 bullets through the head on international television, fair enough! The way I see it, if he isn't dead, he will produce another authentic video about how he's pissed off with the western world, and wants to promote his "death to the infidel" campaign, with an added timestamp for verification.

Because the pics of him are pretty brutal and the White House is nervous about letting them go. However knowing Obama's government even if they are not released they would be leaked soon

I'm absolutely appalled that those sadistic American soldiers shot an unarmed man to death. I am also incredibly disgusted that those brutal yanks shot the unarmed man through his eye. Those 'licensed chavs' are there to capture people, not to play real life Call of Duty!

Yeah right!

There are no pictures because it wasn't him in that compound/house. This was all just a big propaganda exercise.

Obama is officially a bigger, more evil assh*le than that retarded cowboy bloke they had in the White House before him.

NO evidence + ZERO proof = NEVER HAPPENED!

Because the pics of him are pretty brutal and the White House is nervous about letting them go. However knowing Obama's government even if they are not released they would be leaked soon

I believe he is dead, but I believe nothing at all about this rallying trumpet call hogwash a panel of CIA public affairs correspondents have scraped together.

Minimise backlash from followers? They apparently just killed the man. He has been top of the most wanted list for 10 years, during which time they have breached an inordinate amount of Islamic decorum. But they decide to observe it now?

I have the urge to see the pics lol - but also don't want to... Just telling us a story without evidence WHAT SO EVER is a tad annoying, but things will be leaked soon

Rumour is they may well release the helmet cam to